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Would you buy a supercharged Ecotec Camaro for $20K?

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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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You mean to tell me...that if you were shopping for a performance FWD import....you wouldn't consider a RWD alternative?
Old Jul 23, 2003 | 10:36 AM
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....because, if I were looking at a performance version of an Eclipse, or an SER or whatever.....and I had a RWD alternative, it would be hard for me to resist.
Old Jul 23, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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I'd rather spend $20k on a clean & unmolested 1st gen Camaro.
Old Jul 23, 2003 | 10:58 AM
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I'd rather spend $20k on a clean & unmolested 1st gen Camaro.
Yeah.....but it sure would be a shame if it needed to be your daily driver.
Old Jul 23, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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Haha.. initially, I misread the title of this thread as "Would you buy a supercahrged ELECTRIC Camaro...."

Back to the subject at hand, it would have to have at least 225-250HP to be worthwhile and compete with the import offerings. Maybe for a daily driver. Then I'd buy a another with the V8 for show'n'go.
Old Jul 23, 2003 | 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by Z284ever
You mean to tell me...that if you were shopping for a performance FWD import....you wouldn't consider a RWD alternative?
One I wouldn't be doing that in the first place,fwd import or otherwise, and second it would have at least a V6 but moreso a V8.If I were looking for a $20k import it would be an older porsche,rx7 or supra.Camaros aren't econos or tuners.They are an in-your face-fist in the gut if you **** me off-straightline performer-canyon carver and nothing less.
Old Jul 23, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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Not in a Camaro..

but maybe in another lighter weight rwd car with a power/weight ratio equiv to a 4th gen LS1 Camaro..
Old Jul 23, 2003 | 12:02 PM
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What about a a super charged Colorado 2.8L I4, that engine puts out 175HP in N/A form , that is more than the 3.4L V6 did in the 4th gen.

it would probably put out about 260HP+ with a blower
Old Jul 23, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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One I wouldn't be doing that in the first place,fwd import or otherwise, and second it would have at least a V6 but moreso a V8.

That's exactly what I mean. You are happy with the current Camaro paradigm. You wouldn't consider looking much beyond that formula.

Unfortunately, you and I and the rest of us don't seem to want to buy enough Camaros.

Maybe it wouldn't hurt to add a new and different Camaro model that might attract new enthusiasts to the Camaro camp. That's the point of this thread, I guess.

BTW, a couple of weeks ago at a cruise, I saw an 1986 Mustang SVO with a turbo 2.3. The owner said it runs low 13's.

I thought it was pretty cool.
Old Jul 23, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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Yeah.....but it sure would be a shame if it needed to be your daily driver.
I wouldn't drive any supercharged car as a daily driver... period.

For $20K, you can get a clean unmolested 1st gen from $12-16K, and buy a clean used V6 4th gen for your daily driver.

That's two Camaros for the price of a supercharged rice-rocket.

Not a hard decision to make.
Old Jul 23, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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I think the real question that's being asked here is:

"Do you think that a supercharged/turbo Ecotec will add significant value and sales to the Camaro line?"

Not would you buy one (even though that's what the subject line reads) Almost everyone here, I'm sure, would opt for a V8. I really don't think that's up for dispute.

A lot of us have said that we need model differentiation and that that also needs to be displayed in additional power levels. Why not differentiate models further with how the power is made?

There is a need for this in the model line-up and Camaro needs to attract more and different customers. The image of a Camaro driver as a testosterone filled smart-a$$ punk drives more people away than it attracts. Give the masses a decently quick, less expensive, perfomance oriented model that stands out from the crowd with unique looks and power plant. cough...rs...cough...Don't worry, I'm sure you'll still be able to fill your power craving with a dang fast v8 model.

That said, get the execution right. If the car feels right and drives right than it could work.

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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by jg95z28
I wouldn't drive any supercharged car as a daily driver... period.

For $20K, you can get a clean unmolested 1st gen from $12-16K, and buy a clean used V6 4th gen for your daily driver.

That's two Camaros for the price of a supercharged rice-rocket.

Not a hard decision to make.
If you're saying there's no market, than I'll respectfully disagree. What about all those people out there that buy brand new Eclipses, V6 Mustangs, Tiburons, etc., etc. Are they flocking to buy 35 year old cars and used 4th gen V6's? Nope.

To quote a recent movie:

"We're mass communicat'n here!"

5 points if you can guess the name.

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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by jg95z28
I wouldn't drive any supercharged car as a daily driver... period.


Why not? There is nothing more complicated about their use or ownership.

I drove a VW Corrado G60 everyday for about 100,000 miles. The supercharger was absolutely trouble free.
Old Jul 23, 2003 | 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Z284ever
That's exactly what I mean. You are happy with the current Camaro paradigm. You wouldn't consider looking much beyond that formula.

Unfortunately, you and I and the rest of us don't seem to want to buy enough Camaros.

Maybe it wouldn't hurt to add a new and different Camaro model that might attract new enthusiasts to the Camaro camp. That's the point of this thread, I guess.

BTW, a couple of weeks ago at a cruise, I saw an 1986 Mustang SVO with a turbo 2.3. The owner said it runs low 13's.

I thought it was pretty cool.
..and maybe you're not enough of a Camaro fan to realize that a s/c 4banger would be bad,uncamaro like and further hurt the camaro's image.If you want them to try something new with the Camaro shouldn't it be something like a new fuel injection system,factory headers(although 1stgens had them at one time),air filtration or a new ignition system?They could possibly do things to the new Camaro that people are doing to make it faster and if they(customers) want to add a S/C more power to them,pun intended.Those things,a new exterior/interior and maybe keeping the price low/lower could/would also attract new enthusiasts without scarificing or alienating it's current enthusiasts.

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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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Exactly... it would be a neat car.. but don't call it a Camaro.



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