The VF Commodore
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The VF Commodore
The Holden VE Commodore will see an extensive redesign and will be christened the Commodore VF, and is scheduled to hit the streets the 2nd half of next year.
The redesign is aimed not only as a refresh (in August, the VE Commodore will be the longest running Commodore model in Holden history) but will also see many components switch over to aluminum and high strength steel plus the addition of electric steering. The target is a 7% improvement in fuel economy.
Outside, many of the aerodynamic tricks found on the Eco versions of the Cruze, Malibu, and even the Volt will be employed. Outside of the aero refinements, there's still a lot of the Chevrolet influence in the upcoming redesign, and for good reason. GM intends to integrate Holden's rear drive sedans into Chevrolet's lineup in the Middle East and North and South America.
No word yet on if it will be called Commodore or Lumina outside of Australia.
.... and...I know you glanced at the calender... no, it's not April Fools day.
It's already started the rounds in the Australian car rags, so I think I can mention it here without having black Suburbans pulling up out front and men in black knocking on my door.
The redesign is aimed not only as a refresh (in August, the VE Commodore will be the longest running Commodore model in Holden history) but will also see many components switch over to aluminum and high strength steel plus the addition of electric steering. The target is a 7% improvement in fuel economy.
Outside, many of the aerodynamic tricks found on the Eco versions of the Cruze, Malibu, and even the Volt will be employed. Outside of the aero refinements, there's still a lot of the Chevrolet influence in the upcoming redesign, and for good reason. GM intends to integrate Holden's rear drive sedans into Chevrolet's lineup in the Middle East and North and South America.
No word yet on if it will be called Commodore or Lumina outside of Australia.
.... and...I know you glanced at the calender... no, it's not April Fools day.
It's already started the rounds in the Australian car rags, so I think I can mention it here without having black Suburbans pulling up out front and men in black knocking on my door.
Last edited by guionM; 04-04-2012 at 11:34 AM.
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Re: The VF Commodore
I'm interested to what Chevy will call this NA version of the VF,
Caprice?
Commodore?
Chevelle?
Lumina?
or something totally new, my 2 hopes are either Chevelle or Commodore, my reasons is, If it's Chevelle I hope it has enough cues to hint at past Chevelle's or it will probally have the same reception as the australian GTO. Though Dodge was able to pull off using the Charger name, I think that for it to be a 4 door sedan that Chevy needs to inject some heritage in this RWD sedan if they use the Chevelle name. It don't have to be overly retro but similar like cues that the new Impala has but modernized, throw in some retroish side pannels and taillights and call it a Chevelle and I think it would work.
Though if it's gonna be a newly styled sedan than I think calling it something new or calling it a Commodore would work. I think a Chevy Commodore sounds new and refreshing for the US market whereas a Lumina or Caprice to me would lower the impact of a RWD sedan being relaunched into the Chevy lineup. The stigma of the names like Lumina and Caprice would give mixed reactions and wouldn't bring excitement like a new name or a name that hasn't been used in a long time.
Caprice?
Commodore?
Chevelle?
Lumina?
or something totally new, my 2 hopes are either Chevelle or Commodore, my reasons is, If it's Chevelle I hope it has enough cues to hint at past Chevelle's or it will probally have the same reception as the australian GTO. Though Dodge was able to pull off using the Charger name, I think that for it to be a 4 door sedan that Chevy needs to inject some heritage in this RWD sedan if they use the Chevelle name. It don't have to be overly retro but similar like cues that the new Impala has but modernized, throw in some retroish side pannels and taillights and call it a Chevelle and I think it would work.
Though if it's gonna be a newly styled sedan than I think calling it something new or calling it a Commodore would work. I think a Chevy Commodore sounds new and refreshing for the US market whereas a Lumina or Caprice to me would lower the impact of a RWD sedan being relaunched into the Chevy lineup. The stigma of the names like Lumina and Caprice would give mixed reactions and wouldn't bring excitement like a new name or a name that hasn't been used in a long time.
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Re: The VF Commodore
Remember, this will probably be "the Chevy" that becomes the face of GM in NASCAR. Lumina has a recent history in NASCAR. Since I doubt it will have historical "Chevelle" styling cues, other than being a 4-door RWD sedan, that name is probably out. Simply calling it the Chevy Commodore as a rebadged Holden Commodore (which is what it is) sounds simple on the surface, however I'm not sure it will bring the "buzz" GM is after. I'm all for a new name, but based on other recent new Chevy names, I'm not over confident they'd select anything better than one they already have.
Here are my top choices, in order of which I think is most likely...
1. Caprice
2. Lumina
3. Commodore
4. Monte Carlo
5. something completely new
Yeah, I know folks will argue that the Monte Carlo was a 2-door, but then so was the Dodge Charger.
Here are my top choices, in order of which I think is most likely...
1. Caprice
2. Lumina
3. Commodore
4. Monte Carlo
5. something completely new
Yeah, I know folks will argue that the Monte Carlo was a 2-door, but then so was the Dodge Charger.
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Re: The VF Commodore
In my opinion, GM learned a lesson from this and sought to reap the benefits by tuning a performance electric power steering system for the aforementioned 2012 ZL1 and subsequently all 2013 Camaros.
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Re: The VF Commodore
Remember, this will probably be "the Chevy" that becomes the face of GM in NASCAR. Lumina has a recent history in NASCAR. Since I doubt it will have historical "Chevelle" styling cues, other than being a 4-door RWD sedan, that name is probably out. Simply calling it the Chevy Commodore as a rebadged Holden Commodore (which is what it is) sounds simple on the surface, however I'm not sure it will bring the "buzz" GM is after. I'm all for a new name, but based on other recent new Chevy names, I'm not over confident they'd select anything better than one they already have.
Here are my top choices, in order of which I think is most likely...
1. Caprice
2. Lumina
3. Commodore
4. Monte Carlo
5. something completely new
Yeah, I know folks will argue that the Monte Carlo was a 2-door, but then so was the Dodge Charger.
Here are my top choices, in order of which I think is most likely...
1. Caprice
2. Lumina
3. Commodore
4. Monte Carlo
5. something completely new
Yeah, I know folks will argue that the Monte Carlo was a 2-door, but then so was the Dodge Charger.
And they used Chevelle's back in the '74-'79 timeframe (not sure if the ones used in NASCAR at that time were referred to as Malibus or Chevelles).
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Re: The VF Commodore
From '74-79 the Chevys were mainly Monte Carlos. Chevelles were used more in the late '60s, the Monte Carlos pretty much took over by 1971. That's not to say the Chevelles may not of been used in smaller venues, heck even a Camaro or two crept into Grand National road races.
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Re: The VF Commodore
Just a couple of articles from down under confirming the obvious:
Commodore to head Nascar charge
Large cars making a comeback | Holden Commodore exports
Commodore to head Nascar charge
Large cars making a comeback | Holden Commodore exports
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Re: The VF Commodore
I wish they would just call it a Commodore. Given what it is, a large 4 door sedan, it sounds better than Caprice and the name ****'s will cry if its a Chevelle. SS would be stupid. Chevy Commodore
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Holden and Chevrolet will see their line pretty much combined globally. The Cruze is already also made in Holden's plant in Australia, and it's also sold as Holden Cruze in Australia and New Zealand.
When GM-NA stopped selling the B-body cars in the Middle East, Holden stepped in for Chevrolet with their V-cars, Lumna and Caprice.
We already have the Caprice name here........
When GM-NA stopped selling the B-body cars in the Middle East, Holden stepped in for Chevrolet with their V-cars, Lumna and Caprice.
We already have the Caprice name here........