I'm with Joe.

 

I'm with Matt.

 

The 380-400 hp, 5.4L, 4V, Boss Mustang, seems to be dead or waaay on the back burner.

Perhaps the next upgrade over the standard GT won't even be a V8, but a Twin Force turbo V6.

 

No sir, you're the douche.

I never resort to name calling, but the reason I throw your "term" back to you is because I layed a challenge to you to back up your statement, and instead you resorted to name calling.

You also said Shelby "used" to be good with cars and "failed" with the GT500. I'd like to hear something concrete to back up your original statements regarding the fact that a car that's sporting over 600-plus frigging horsepower and isn't even on the streets yet will be a (as you put it in a silly fashion) a "dog", and will be beaten by a Camaro which there is no previous generation that will touch it (and the next generation is still nearly 2 years away and probally won't have a competing model for the 1st year or 2 after that), or that a Corvette will hand it it's *** when we don't know a thing about it's performance.

If you simply don't like Mustangs as a matter of personal taste? Fine. You simply don't like the GT500 because it's the only 4 passenger car on the planet that even approaches Z06 performance levels and it happens to be made by the Ford Motor Company instead of General Motors? No worries.

Even though "it's-over-the-top" , it's still a car that's worth a high level of respect.

To top it off, if it wasn't for the Mustang, and the comittment Ford displayed in keeping it around, and the fact that Ford and Caroll Shelby have invested alot to lay down an EXTREMELY tough gauntlet for anyone else to follow, not only wouldn't you have GM scrambling to come up with a high powered version of the next Camaro and Corvette, you most certainly wouldn't even have a new Camaro on it's way right now.

Food for thought.

BTW: If you want a lesson on Caroll Shelbys cars (since you're under the impression that the new versions are somehow inferior) shoot me an e-mail and I'll give ya a quick lesson.

 

But perhaps a light year or two better than say... a 96 B4C Camaro, perhaps?

But being serious for a moment, the idea behind the car is to make a 4 seat, high production chassis handle as close to a specially built, specifically engineered, TWO passenger sports car as possible.

The current Corvette is already arguably the best handling car on the planet, and most certainly THE best handling car you're going to find for under $100,000 unless you step up to the $70,000 Z06. If the Shelby can do only 9.9/10s of what a Corvette does on a track, and only 9/10s of what a Z06 can do, we're still talking about a minor miracle.

We're talking about a car in which most sales are budget V6 models that start at $20K coming close with the best GM engineering with a real budget can do.

Gotta respect that.

 

I used to be all up in Carol Shelby's stuff used to be all about that, till i found out he knows nothing about today's cars and performance, he had a good run but like anything old its time to let it rest.

 

Ugh, this thread has certainly taken a turn for the worse.

While I wholeheartedly agree that this car is borderline pointless, and moves it even further away from what I feel should be the "pony car's" mission than even the GT500 did, you still have to respect the level of powertrain engineering in it. I'm interested to see the final specs and a test or two, but the reality is that these things are going to be as scarce on the street as most exotics, if not moreso. This is definitely not a car Chevrolet should be aiming any in-house Camaro at.

However, as others have said....Lingenfelter and others.....

 

Either the new R&T or C&D (can't remember which one) would beg to differ with you on that. They do a head to head with the z06 and 7 other cars I believe (Evo, Cayman, GT4, S2000, ect). It put up good lap times, but they weren't the best lap times, and it was remarked how difficult the car was to drive around the track, and how stiff the rear felt. Maybe it is time to look past the leaf springs once and for all.

 

How does he know nothing about today's cars and performance? He probably has more knowledge in his little finger than most self-proclaimed "car people" have in their brains.

The current GT500 would soundly thrash EVERYTHING that the '60s muscle cars had to offer, both in a straight line and in the turns.

Sure, it weighs 3900 lbs. It handles a lot better than many other vehicles in that weight range. It also has 500 HP, with a full warranty. It's not an opponent to take lightly.

That being said, I'm sure that GM will have a Camaro model to compete with the GT500, and the Corvette Blue Devil will undoubtedly annihalate just about anything that isn't an F1 car.

 

Guy, I agree with most of what you're saying, but the above two quotes seem a bit narrow minded of you. Surely you're not unaware of the existence of the Ferrari 612 Scaglietti? What about the Porsche 911 GT2 and GT3? There may be others, but those three come to my mind immediately as 4-seat cars that approach Z06 performance levels.

Likewise, I know of a couple cars that handle better than a Z06. Elise? Exige? F430? All have pulled more than 1.0g on a skidpad.

I don't deny that the Z06 is quite possibly the best world-class all-around performance bargain in the world, but that's not what you said in either of the claims I quoted above.

Just keeping you honest.

 

anyone else notice the loss in oppertunity to call this a BOSS variant. While there was a 302 BOSS there was also a 429 BOSS. I like Shelby but this makes 4 Shelby vairants of the Mustang? At least theyre consistant. This looks like it could be a cool car.

 

so large cash for a modded stang with some old guys signature on it ? i'll pass.

 

Ford is just trying to do anything to save their ***'s from failing even farther and they are focusing on the wrong cars. The mustang used to be a decent car, anymore it has become a joke. This car looks great but i doubt it will have the performance you guys seem to think it will. It's kinda like toyota's false mpg ratings

 

 

You may not like it, but the Mustang is not a joke. Name another sporty coupe that is even in the same ballpark in terms of numbers sold.

I personally like the new Mustang a lot. I do smile quietly inside at the idea that a brand new 2007 GT is no quicker (or probably slower, given equal drivers) than a 1998-2002 LS1-powered F-car. But the Mustang looks good, drives nicely, feels more compact than my Camaro, and offers a good performance value...