And most of those made it into the hands of collectors. This is not the same car as a normal Cobra...

 

As I recall, they blew out the rear after mounting a set of drag radials to see what kind of quarter mile times they could get. I'll bet I can find 50 LS1 Camaro owners who have done the exact same thing.

 

He said something about it being the cobra R I never believed him, as i knew they were hard to come by.... But i doubt it was a Cobra R.
For some dumb reason I always wanted one of those.

 

It was a Cobra, not a Cobra R.....

 

I bet you can find a whole lot more than 50!

 

No worries.

Gotta disagree on a couple of fronts.

First, the car is a Shelby effort, not Ford's.

Second, the Mustang is perhaps the best it's ever been. The Mustang GT is on my short list of cars I'd buy today, next to a GTO and a used supercharged Cobra.

Third, I think we need to wait for the results before making proclimations. You should have heard the nonsense that was spewed about when I posted the then-not-in-production Supercharged Mustang Cobra would certainly destroy any 2002 LS1 F-body. I got flamed by people who were so smug about that. At the time, I was close with people whose job was to independently varify items (such as horsepower) for car companies, and this place had an early production Cobra putting out over 400 horsepower.... at the rear wheels.

Moral of the story.....don't talk definitively if ye know not about which ye speak.


Me too!

Yep.

But at the same time, Saleen has been involved with Mustangs for roughly 20 years nonstop. Shelby was only involved with Ford for about 6 years or so before they bitterly parted company. The fact that Shelby Mustangs are very rare is what makes them expensive.

That short stint with Ford also works in Shelby's favor. Saleen has been involved with Mustangs so long, he's known as a tuner more than a racer. Shelby's short stint doing Mustangs for Ford left him with the image of being more racer than tuner. To top it off, it's known he simply lent his name to Dodge for the Daytona and Dakota, he still somewhat escapes the "tuner" label.... though that's essentially what he is now.


Don't you just love it when people shoot themselves in the foot far better than anything you could possibly say to them.

Wasn't a Cobra R.

First, the engines were racing grade.
Second, the only way you could get one was have a racing license.
Third, you can almost look up the names of each person who bought one.

Also, knowing Ford's 4.6 engine the way I do, and knowing especially about what goes into an SVT engine and how it's made, I'm going to pull out the call on this one.

Sounds like someone (either you or your friend) made up that story, or that engine that blew wasn't stock. Either someone did a rebuild on it (badly) or it was thrashed beyond belief.

In either case, it wasn't new.

 

Actually, the Cobra R had a 5.4.

 

That was only for 93 and 95 models. To get a 00 you just needed 55k.

 

After this, I can't imagine anybody putting any stock in anything you say.

But keep posting - there is at least a little entertainment value.

 

Yes but that wasnt because GM couldnt engineer a better rear. It was because if they did it would add weight to the car and put it in a different class if I remeber Scotts post correctly.

Ive just never associated the 4 seater Camaro with the 2 seater Sports car. I do see where youre comming from though.

I dont know the reputation of Lingfelter. Im just assuming that Shelby has to hold up to the same standards as Ford. Lingfelter I would assume wouldnt have to meet those standards.

 

Why are you blaming GM? It was Lingenfelter that added a whole crapload of power to the car and didn't take any (or enough) steps to make sure the driveline could handle the abuse.

The Z06's rear end can handle all of the LS7's power, even with drag radials.

 

Im not sure where this came from but you just said exactly what I said. You compared LS1 Camaros blowing out rears to M/T blowing out the rear on a Lingfelters. I was saying the difference was GM could have put a rear in that would have held up. They didnt because of weight, putting the car in another class and changing the standards for impact or something the car would have to meet. That is of course if Im remembering Scotts post correctly. I cant imagine Lingfelter having to do anything like that. So they should be able to put a rear in that would handle it.

Show me where I blamed GM...

 

I believe the only Cobra R you needed a racing liscense to buy was the 95. I don't recall ever reading that about the 2000.

As already mentioned, the 00 Cobra R had a 385hp 5.4, not the 4.6.

 

Yeah, this one has me scratching my head as well.


Since we are sort of on the topic of rear differentials, I am not entirely confident that a 725hp Mustang with some sticky tires isn't going to blowing the Ford 8.8 to pieces. I guess only time will tell, but I could easily see it being a problem. Lingenfelter's best TT Z06 time of 9 seconds (or maybe they got into the high 8s, I don't remember) was done with MT streets on I believe, and they didn't blow the Vette rear out, although one has to wonder how many launches it could take like that before bad things happen.

 

Heh... sorry, misread your post.