its official. camaro in 06-07
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Re: its official. camaro in 06-07
Originally Posted by iCE
LOL I love it. cant wait till it gets produced in 06-07. half of you guys are over 40..... what a bunch of losers....go get back to your has been life and wife. (hmmm i bet THIS gets lots of comments.) 
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Re: its official. camaro in 06-07
Originally Posted by iCE
LOL I love it. cant wait till it gets produced in 06-07. half of you guys are over 40..... what a bunch of losers....go get back to your has been life and wife. (hmmm i bet THIS gets lots of comments.)
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Re: its official. camaro in 06-07
This is quoted directly from Popular Hot Rodding Magazine, an issue from a few months ago. If anyone has heard anything more than this *from a reliable source* then let's hear it.
If you haven't got a reliable source, then don't bother posting.
Rising from the Ashes
A new Camaro will be reborn in 2007, but getting there won't be easy.
By Guy McCoy , JOHNNY HUNKINS
GM isn't willingly giving out information on this, but there's been a lot of speculation over the past couple of years, ranging from the pretty logical to the somewhat bizarre. On various internet sites, disgruntled fans post everything from "GM wanted to make trucks instead" to "GM didn't care about the car" or that GM's Brand Management from outside the auto industry had little to no experience.
It would seem the lack of commitment from GM management would be the most plausable. Next to the Mustang, the F-body seemed stuck in time. In the fourth-gen F-body's lifetime (which ran from 1993 to 2002) Ford saw fit to give the Mustang two body revisions and three special editions that were more than a paint and trim job (the Cobra, Bullitt and Mach 1).
There is a lot of frustration in trying to get an accurate picture of the Camaro and Firebird's future. GM has refused to discuss it in the way they have discussed future Cadillacs, the recently introduced Corvette, or their move towards rear-wheel drive in many of their future cars such as Buick, Pontiac or Saturn. Ask about GTO, and you'll hear that it's going to be a part of Pontiac's line-up for some years to come. Ask about Camaro, and you get the feeling the GM reps want to run for the door.
*EDIT*
Meanwhile, Pontiac General manager Lynn Myers and GM's new product chairman Bob Lutz seemed to remove all doubt about a Firebird in the future by stating that Pontiac was moving up market as a sort of American version of BMW. This means performance across the board, but also meant a more upscale crowd. Something not exactly represented by the Pontiac Firebird. Even Pontiac's youth-oriented "pass it on" ad campaign was viewed as the wrong direction, and ended up becoming short-lived. Mr. Lutz said the ads sent the wrong message about the division, that it is too down-market and not exciting and aspirational enough. "It didn't show the kinds of people we wanted the brand to be associated with," Lutz said. Even more recently in a conversation reported by Ward's Auto World, Lutz acknowledged the end of the Firebird by stating, "Firebird's day is gone."
*EDIT*
It had been strongly hinted, and now confirmed, that GM was working on a sporty car for Chevrolet which includes a 5.3-liter V-8 engine, rear-wheel drive, and four-passenger capacity. This vehicle will be based on GM's upcoming "Zeta" chassis being developed by Holden, GM's Australian division. Production for Zeta is likely headed for GM's Hamtramck, Michigan plant, which will soon be phasing out Cadillac Deville, Seville and Buick LeSabre. Although at press time, full details are not known about this car, but it is known that it will fall into the same "ponycar" market the Camaro filled. An anonymous source close to the vehicle project has told PHR that GM has asked Delphi Corporation, the world's largest automotive supplier, to submit a bid on the safety restraint (airbag) system and steering assembly for a MY2007 Camaro. The only issue seems to be the final name and who will supply sub-systems. At the time this is written, the Ste Therese plant is being demolished, and it's expected the land it was on will be sold by General Motors. Once this happens, it will be interesting to see if GM is a little freer in talking about the future of the Camaro nameplate.
When it's all said and done, the degree to which Chevrolet is free to talk about an upcoming Camaro relies almost entirely on its relations with the Canadian government and the satisfaction of the Canadian Auto Workers union. We have no doubt there will be a "Camaro-like" vehicle in our future, so the issue really boils down to the use of the name and how litigious the lawyers feel about it. We hope they can overcome their objections and let the good times roll!
I'm sure this has been posted, but it didn't take me long to do and it's from a semi-official source - an automotive publication. There's no room here, at least in this area, to BS about it. If people want to spread rumors around about the new 5th gen, there are other boards...
If you haven't got a reliable source, then don't bother posting.
Rising from the Ashes
A new Camaro will be reborn in 2007, but getting there won't be easy.
By Guy McCoy , JOHNNY HUNKINS
GM isn't willingly giving out information on this, but there's been a lot of speculation over the past couple of years, ranging from the pretty logical to the somewhat bizarre. On various internet sites, disgruntled fans post everything from "GM wanted to make trucks instead" to "GM didn't care about the car" or that GM's Brand Management from outside the auto industry had little to no experience.
It would seem the lack of commitment from GM management would be the most plausable. Next to the Mustang, the F-body seemed stuck in time. In the fourth-gen F-body's lifetime (which ran from 1993 to 2002) Ford saw fit to give the Mustang two body revisions and three special editions that were more than a paint and trim job (the Cobra, Bullitt and Mach 1).
There is a lot of frustration in trying to get an accurate picture of the Camaro and Firebird's future. GM has refused to discuss it in the way they have discussed future Cadillacs, the recently introduced Corvette, or their move towards rear-wheel drive in many of their future cars such as Buick, Pontiac or Saturn. Ask about GTO, and you'll hear that it's going to be a part of Pontiac's line-up for some years to come. Ask about Camaro, and you get the feeling the GM reps want to run for the door.
*EDIT*
Meanwhile, Pontiac General manager Lynn Myers and GM's new product chairman Bob Lutz seemed to remove all doubt about a Firebird in the future by stating that Pontiac was moving up market as a sort of American version of BMW. This means performance across the board, but also meant a more upscale crowd. Something not exactly represented by the Pontiac Firebird. Even Pontiac's youth-oriented "pass it on" ad campaign was viewed as the wrong direction, and ended up becoming short-lived. Mr. Lutz said the ads sent the wrong message about the division, that it is too down-market and not exciting and aspirational enough. "It didn't show the kinds of people we wanted the brand to be associated with," Lutz said. Even more recently in a conversation reported by Ward's Auto World, Lutz acknowledged the end of the Firebird by stating, "Firebird's day is gone."
*EDIT*
It had been strongly hinted, and now confirmed, that GM was working on a sporty car for Chevrolet which includes a 5.3-liter V-8 engine, rear-wheel drive, and four-passenger capacity. This vehicle will be based on GM's upcoming "Zeta" chassis being developed by Holden, GM's Australian division. Production for Zeta is likely headed for GM's Hamtramck, Michigan plant, which will soon be phasing out Cadillac Deville, Seville and Buick LeSabre. Although at press time, full details are not known about this car, but it is known that it will fall into the same "ponycar" market the Camaro filled. An anonymous source close to the vehicle project has told PHR that GM has asked Delphi Corporation, the world's largest automotive supplier, to submit a bid on the safety restraint (airbag) system and steering assembly for a MY2007 Camaro. The only issue seems to be the final name and who will supply sub-systems. At the time this is written, the Ste Therese plant is being demolished, and it's expected the land it was on will be sold by General Motors. Once this happens, it will be interesting to see if GM is a little freer in talking about the future of the Camaro nameplate.
When it's all said and done, the degree to which Chevrolet is free to talk about an upcoming Camaro relies almost entirely on its relations with the Canadian government and the satisfaction of the Canadian Auto Workers union. We have no doubt there will be a "Camaro-like" vehicle in our future, so the issue really boils down to the use of the name and how litigious the lawyers feel about it. We hope they can overcome their objections and let the good times roll!
I'm sure this has been posted, but it didn't take me long to do and it's from a semi-official source - an automotive publication. There's no room here, at least in this area, to BS about it. If people want to spread rumors around about the new 5th gen, there are other boards...
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Re: its official. camaro in 06-07
Originally Posted by neurotictim
This is quoted directly from Popular Hot Rodding Magazine, an issue from a few months ago. If anyone has heard anything more than this *from a reliable source* then let's hear it.
If you haven't got a reliable source, then don't bother posting.
Rising from the Ashes
A new Camaro will be reborn in 2007, but getting there won't be easy.
By Guy McCoy , JOHNNY HUNKINS
GM isn't willingly giving out information on this, but there's been a lot of speculation over the past couple of years, ranging from the pretty logical to the somewhat bizarre. On various internet sites, disgruntled fans post everything from "GM wanted to make trucks instead" to "GM didn't care about the car" or that GM's Brand Management from outside the auto industry had little to no experience.
It would seem the lack of commitment from GM management would be the most plausable. Next to the Mustang, the F-body seemed stuck in time. In the fourth-gen F-body's lifetime (which ran from 1993 to 2002) Ford saw fit to give the Mustang two body revisions and three special editions that were more than a paint and trim job (the Cobra, Bullitt and Mach 1).
There is a lot of frustration in trying to get an accurate picture of the Camaro and Firebird's future. GM has refused to discuss it in the way they have discussed future Cadillacs, the recently introduced Corvette, or their move towards rear-wheel drive in many of their future cars such as Buick, Pontiac or Saturn. Ask about GTO, and you'll hear that it's going to be a part of Pontiac's line-up for some years to come. Ask about Camaro, and you get the feeling the GM reps want to run for the door.
*EDIT*
Meanwhile, Pontiac General manager Lynn Myers and GM's new product chairman Bob Lutz seemed to remove all doubt about a Firebird in the future by stating that Pontiac was moving up market as a sort of American version of BMW. This means performance across the board, but also meant a more upscale crowd. Something not exactly represented by the Pontiac Firebird. Even Pontiac's youth-oriented "pass it on" ad campaign was viewed as the wrong direction, and ended up becoming short-lived. Mr. Lutz said the ads sent the wrong message about the division, that it is too down-market and not exciting and aspirational enough. "It didn't show the kinds of people we wanted the brand to be associated with," Lutz said. Even more recently in a conversation reported by Ward's Auto World, Lutz acknowledged the end of the Firebird by stating, "Firebird's day is gone."
*EDIT*
It had been strongly hinted, and now confirmed, that GM was working on a sporty car for Chevrolet which includes a 5.3-liter V-8 engine, rear-wheel drive, and four-passenger capacity. This vehicle will be based on GM's upcoming "Zeta" chassis being developed by Holden, GM's Australian division. Production for Zeta is likely headed for GM's Hamtramck, Michigan plant, which will soon be phasing out Cadillac Deville, Seville and Buick LeSabre. Although at press time, full details are not known about this car, but it is known that it will fall into the same "ponycar" market the Camaro filled. An anonymous source close to the vehicle project has told PHR that GM has asked Delphi Corporation, the world's largest automotive supplier, to submit a bid on the safety restraint (airbag) system and steering assembly for a MY2007 Camaro. The only issue seems to be the final name and who will supply sub-systems. At the time this is written, the Ste Therese plant is being demolished, and it's expected the land it was on will be sold by General Motors. Once this happens, it will be interesting to see if GM is a little freer in talking about the future of the Camaro nameplate.
When it's all said and done, the degree to which Chevrolet is free to talk about an upcoming Camaro relies almost entirely on its relations with the Canadian government and the satisfaction of the Canadian Auto Workers union. We have no doubt there will be a "Camaro-like" vehicle in our future, so the issue really boils down to the use of the name and how litigious the lawyers feel about it. We hope they can overcome their objections and let the good times roll!
I'm sure this has been posted, but it didn't take me long to do and it's from a semi-official source - an automotive publication. There's no room here, at least in this area, to BS about it. If people want to spread rumors around about the new 5th gen, there are other boards...
If you haven't got a reliable source, then don't bother posting.
Rising from the Ashes
A new Camaro will be reborn in 2007, but getting there won't be easy.
By Guy McCoy , JOHNNY HUNKINS
GM isn't willingly giving out information on this, but there's been a lot of speculation over the past couple of years, ranging from the pretty logical to the somewhat bizarre. On various internet sites, disgruntled fans post everything from "GM wanted to make trucks instead" to "GM didn't care about the car" or that GM's Brand Management from outside the auto industry had little to no experience.
It would seem the lack of commitment from GM management would be the most plausable. Next to the Mustang, the F-body seemed stuck in time. In the fourth-gen F-body's lifetime (which ran from 1993 to 2002) Ford saw fit to give the Mustang two body revisions and three special editions that were more than a paint and trim job (the Cobra, Bullitt and Mach 1).
There is a lot of frustration in trying to get an accurate picture of the Camaro and Firebird's future. GM has refused to discuss it in the way they have discussed future Cadillacs, the recently introduced Corvette, or their move towards rear-wheel drive in many of their future cars such as Buick, Pontiac or Saturn. Ask about GTO, and you'll hear that it's going to be a part of Pontiac's line-up for some years to come. Ask about Camaro, and you get the feeling the GM reps want to run for the door.
*EDIT*
Meanwhile, Pontiac General manager Lynn Myers and GM's new product chairman Bob Lutz seemed to remove all doubt about a Firebird in the future by stating that Pontiac was moving up market as a sort of American version of BMW. This means performance across the board, but also meant a more upscale crowd. Something not exactly represented by the Pontiac Firebird. Even Pontiac's youth-oriented "pass it on" ad campaign was viewed as the wrong direction, and ended up becoming short-lived. Mr. Lutz said the ads sent the wrong message about the division, that it is too down-market and not exciting and aspirational enough. "It didn't show the kinds of people we wanted the brand to be associated with," Lutz said. Even more recently in a conversation reported by Ward's Auto World, Lutz acknowledged the end of the Firebird by stating, "Firebird's day is gone."
*EDIT*
It had been strongly hinted, and now confirmed, that GM was working on a sporty car for Chevrolet which includes a 5.3-liter V-8 engine, rear-wheel drive, and four-passenger capacity. This vehicle will be based on GM's upcoming "Zeta" chassis being developed by Holden, GM's Australian division. Production for Zeta is likely headed for GM's Hamtramck, Michigan plant, which will soon be phasing out Cadillac Deville, Seville and Buick LeSabre. Although at press time, full details are not known about this car, but it is known that it will fall into the same "ponycar" market the Camaro filled. An anonymous source close to the vehicle project has told PHR that GM has asked Delphi Corporation, the world's largest automotive supplier, to submit a bid on the safety restraint (airbag) system and steering assembly for a MY2007 Camaro. The only issue seems to be the final name and who will supply sub-systems. At the time this is written, the Ste Therese plant is being demolished, and it's expected the land it was on will be sold by General Motors. Once this happens, it will be interesting to see if GM is a little freer in talking about the future of the Camaro nameplate.
When it's all said and done, the degree to which Chevrolet is free to talk about an upcoming Camaro relies almost entirely on its relations with the Canadian government and the satisfaction of the Canadian Auto Workers union. We have no doubt there will be a "Camaro-like" vehicle in our future, so the issue really boils down to the use of the name and how litigious the lawyers feel about it. We hope they can overcome their objections and let the good times roll!
I'm sure this has been posted, but it didn't take me long to do and it's from a semi-official source - an automotive publication. There's no room here, at least in this area, to BS about it. If people want to spread rumors around about the new 5th gen, there are other boards...
Actually some posters here contributed to this article so yeah we know about it.
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Re: its official. camaro in 06-07
Originally Posted by MotorCityNova572
ok you guys beleave what you want.but the Camaro is coming back out...
were saying not when he says it is..next yr???
neurotictim ..dude..some of the guys that are part of that article help with info ARE ON THIS BOARD! Where do you think they got this info...and like I said that info was known to us 3-4 months before that article was even made..
iCEAND NO IM NOT OVER 40! WTF does that have to do with anything?
I am going to make this clear, since alot of people come here for info cus they know it is reliable, its true and people like you really are trolls..
iCE,
There are less than 10 people on this forum that can come in here with close to 100% acurate information about the new GM coupe, and a few more that know things that they cannot tell us. Meaning they are real close.If you came in here asking and saying what you think you heard you would of gotten a respectable response. I know GM can shift gears at a drop of a hat and possibilities are endless, but being a 5th gen n00b you really got this out of hand. I am sure the people in here that have been in this forum for years are checking thier sources now, and you think this is bad wait till they get a response...
with that said your remark about being 40...well you must be around 20 give or take..so that really does not make you in the know..whatever you pull off the internet , do yourself a favor and do a search on here first..its been posted...(guess who got first looks at the C6 Z06
yea us )iCe, Unless you have proof, and you can Private Message one of the guys here who REALLY know their stuff to verify it...then my missinformed friend..
SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE!!!!
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Re: its official. camaro in 06-07
Woah, I wasn't trying to slam on those guys. I know there are people here with the inside scoop - I'm backing up what's been said with published articles for those few morons who know everything and want you to be impressed.
My bad, I'll shut up now.
My bad, I'll shut up now.
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From: Pewee Valley, KY
Re: its official. camaro in 06-07
Originally Posted by neurotictim
Woah, I wasn't trying to slam on those guys. I know there are people here with the inside scoop - I'm backing up what's been said with published articles for those few morons who know everything and want you to be impressed.
My bad, I'll shut up now.
My bad, I'll shut up now.
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From: Oakland, California
Re: its official. camaro in 06-07
Originally Posted by neurotictim
This is quoted directly from Popular Hot Rodding Magazine, an issue from a few months ago. If anyone has heard anything more than this *from a reliable source* then let's hear it.
If you haven't got a reliable source, then don't bother posting.
Rising from the Ashes
A new Camaro will be reborn in 2007, but getting there won't be easy.
By Guy McCoy...
If you haven't got a reliable source, then don't bother posting.
Rising from the Ashes
A new Camaro will be reborn in 2007, but getting there won't be easy.
By Guy McCoy...
Who do you think guionM is?
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Re: its official. camaro in 06-07
Originally Posted by guionM
Originally Posted by jg95z28
Well since we are talking hypothetical BS in a BS thread....
What if we've aleady seen the concept car but it wasn't called Camaro?
What if we've aleady seen the concept car but it wasn't called Camaro?
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Re: its official. camaro in 06-07
Originally Posted by iCE
LOL I love it. cant wait till it gets produced in 06-07. half of you guys are over 40..... what a bunch of losers....go get back to your has been life and wife. (hmmm i bet THIS gets lots of comments.)
Okay... Enough feeding the troll... :blah:
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Re: its official. camaro in 06-07
Originally Posted by iCE
LOL I love it. cant wait till it gets produced in 06-07. half of you guys are over 40..... what a bunch of losers....go get back to your has been life and wife. (hmmm i bet THIS gets lots of comments.)
Does that mean I'm a loser and still need a life?
I FEEL like I'm over 40...
After you're done answering that one, please enlighten me with your encyclopedic knowledge of the automobile industry. I'm all ears.