GMS plus $100, starts Monday.
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Re: GMS plus $100, starts Monday.
Finally got around to reading the whole thread.
2 very intresting points I hadn't considered. 
Nope. Grand Prix has become the "old man" of GM's car lineup. It's been around visually untouched the longest.
Ties into Branden's point. I haven't checked prices lately, so I wrongly assumed that "Value Pricing" was based on average transaction prices (before the employee discount program).
Originally Posted by formula79
Well, the thing is, Value pricing sucks for two reasons-
#1- They may have reduced prices $600-$1500...but considering most GM cars sold at $3-5,000 below MSRP before value pricing, it is not enough. It makes GM car look expensive...which doen't fly when your cars have a negative rep with some of the public anyway.
#2- GM dealers like to sell cars to people who are upside down, and bury the negative equity using the rebates. Value pricing takes that tool away.
#1- They may have reduced prices $600-$1500...but considering most GM cars sold at $3-5,000 below MSRP before value pricing, it is not enough. It makes GM car look expensive...which doen't fly when your cars have a negative rep with some of the public anyway.
#2- GM dealers like to sell cars to people who are upside down, and bury the negative equity using the rebates. Value pricing takes that tool away.
Originally Posted by 1990 Turbo Grand Prix
Care to explain what this is supposed to mean? Do you feel the GP is a bad car?
Originally Posted by morb|d
Had GM set realistic "value pricing" in the first place, they wouldn't be in the position to be having to "blink" now! GM's "value pricing" as is, is in most cases at least $1500 to $2000 off the mark. You can't expect people to start "believing" the cars are worth the price you arbitrarily set. Instead of focusing on artificial accounting algorithms to get that magic figure, they should have looked at the last 12-18 months of REAL TRANSACTION figures for every model they sell and pin the MSRP to THAT. On new models, that have no previous sales data (obviously), set the price INLINE with other models that DO have history.
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Re: GMS plus $100, starts Monday.
Residual on my 04 GTO is $21700. There is NO way I'm going to pay that when my $199/mo for 24 month lease is up in July 06. I figured it will be worth about $17000 then. I'm hooked on turbos and was considering an 06 GTO to turbocharge, but when you figure beefing up the IRS rear end and drive shaft, it gets too pricey when you figure in the price of the car also. I want a 550hp daily driver. So the Mustang GT is the front runner if the 4.6L will hold that kind of power.
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Re: GMS plus $100, starts Monday.
Originally Posted by Buickman
"Red Toe Tag" is another feeble failure in the making. Return To Greatness is the answer, but GM refuses to listen to the best Buick salesman of all time. Makes you wonder...
Here's an idea for you: Go sell Return to Greatness to Ford, or better yet, Mitsubishi. Make them the next big thing. If GM doesn't want your great plan, wash your hands of them and make somebody else's day.
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Re: GMS plus $100, starts Monday.
You are probably right. Thought of offering to Ford. Problem is I love GM. Afraid Ford might take me up on it. Guess if I was just in it for the money, it would make sense. Instead working on UAW support for Board seat.
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