umm NO.. I'm sorry but the Cobalt and the Monte are not in the same class and to truly compete you need a nice V8 RWD 2+2 coupe..


article here:

http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101351

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Quite honestly... I am embarassed that quotes like that come from Chevrolet.

Better off not saying anything at all.

All this does is anger people or make them laugh at you.

I think Monte Carlo is a nice car, and I think Cobalt will be great... but..... c'mon!

 

Well... I will say this....

F*ck you Chevy...F*ck you very much.

And thats coming from ME.

 

Perhaps we can email Mr. Campbell or the marketing department and express out extreme disagreement with this ludicrous statement somehow?

 

So because Chevy makes other 2 door cars they have it covered?

Someone should let Chevy know that it isn't the 2 doors that the enthusists love it is the RWD and V8. Granted the Monte will have a V8 for '06 it will still be missing RWD and the Manual tranny that would stop me from cross shopping the two cars. Cobalt SS is awesome but is just in a entirly different segment.

It is like Saturn saying they are not affraid of the new Ford Super Duty because they have the VUE and that is also technically a truck.

Someone get and post this jerks email

 

More signs that there are a legion of folks at GM who are so out of touch with reality it's scary.....

Hell, I heard there were some the in room when a code name for the 5th gen was being discussed that didn't get it when the name "Panther" was suggested.......no wonder they're so far behind the curve these days.....

 

You know, I am really getting tired of stuff like this.



I think I am a pretty patient person, and I am VERY loyal to GM (never bought anything else)...

But, it's CRAP like this that just makes me not want to care anymore...

 

Now that I had a chance to sorta cool down, this dude must have hard time walking around and sitting down with ***** so f'ing big.
Is this guy for real? Is he trying to **** us off? Quotes like this make me drop the faith like a bad habit.
I cant get over that statment....If I were Lutz, Id have that guy on they way out of the door, pink slip IN HAND. This is the stuff that makes me sad to call myself a GM fan.....f'ing nascar....where do they find these people...

Forget this fools email...I bet he spells Camaro with an "E"....
Get his boss's email, and then get the boss's boss's email, then let'er rip.

 

I feel the same way... but you know, as much as I admire Mr. Lutz... he has dropped siimilar or worse lines, even if they were perhaps tongue-in-cheek... like the "Maybe you'll see a new Camaro... in 30 years". I know he was referencing the fact that GTO came back after 30 years, but it's just a kick in the stones to a lot of us.

If only there were more people with Scott Settlemire's views and attitudes.

 

Well, yeah Lutz can say things like that... but this guy has the marbles to put the FWD Monte Carlo and Cobalt SS against the always popular Mustang! THAT is what pisses me off. How can you say something like that? If Lutz is a true car guy, and he heard some ahole spew a comment about a FWD car keeping up with a icon like the Mustang, he would be gone.

 

I sent a note to my buddy....I asked him to send over a large cup of reality to this moron....

 

I think they say stuff like that so that the company appears confident, even if he knows internally that they are studying a comeback of the Camaro or whatever. What is he supposed to say? "Yeah, you guys got us. The Mustang owns, and GM has nothing, so we'll just write off the potential performance coupe customers." Remember, he is the head of MARKETING for Chevrolet, and I don't think it would be good for business to just basically concede the market verbally.

I agree that the statement in and of itself is pretty ridiculous. He should have said something like, "Yes, the new Mustang is a formidible competitor. We are studying different options for the future of coupes at Chevrolet. In the meantime, we have the excellent new Cobalt SS coupe and the upgraded Monte Carlo coming soon which should help satisfy many in the market for a fast, sporty coupe."

Heck, for all we know, he did say it more like that, but only parts of his quote were actually printed.

I think most people (including this guy) really know that a Cobalt and a Monte Carlo are NOT competitors to the new Mustang. Even if he thinks that fwd is fine and we should all swallow up the Monte and Cobalt, his job is to know the target market, and they know full well that many in the target market think Camaro when they think Mustang. (Of course, he also knows that many in the target market chose NOT to buy the real Mustang competitors when they WERE rwd with big V8s - including the new GTO).

 

And we're supposed to have faith with crap like this? You've gotta be kidding..

faith my a**. Senior citizens might have faith in GM because thats about as exciting as their product line gets anymore.

 

At least I can give Lutz the benefit of the doubt since his quotes were made when the St. Therese/Quebec/Camaro build rights were still an issue.

IMO this statement and maybe some response to it will highlight a certain missing car. It's so painfully obvious that it isn't even funny. It's also pretty bad when it's coming from the Chevy Marketing Director....

In GM there is no acceptable replacement for my car. If I were to purchase a new car it would most likely be a Mustang since the GTO is just out of my price range.

Monte Carlo....

 

Exciting? I don't get some of you guys. In the '90s we had, what, 3 exciting cars? The 'Vette, and the Camaro/Firebird... Now we've lost the Camaro/Firebird but gained a better Vette, the GTO, Ion RL, Cobalt SS, Cadillac CTS-V (not to mention the regular CTS which is an enthusiast-oriented car, like a BMW is), the upcoming Solstice and Sky, the XLR, Caddy going nearly-all rear drive... The cars are better and the exciting cars are more numerous. Granted, I too lament the passing of the F-cars (but look forward to Zeta and whatever it brings). And I realize that a new Solstice or XLR does not fill the gap that was left in the area that many F-body lovers care about. But to say that GM's overall lineup is less exciting now than it was when the F-cars were around is a little unfair and untrue.

JMHO.