For anyone who actually cares what is said during Nascar telecasts...
Yeah? So what. I drove from Newark to Houston(1600miles) in 22 hours. Nothin but coke and tobacco. Wow.. I'm a freakin athlete too.
You boys need to grow up and realize that car racing is about cars. Horse racing is about horses. And neither drivers nor jockeys are prime to the outcome.
You boys need to grow up and realize that car racing is about cars. Horse racing is about horses. And neither drivers nor jockeys are prime to the outcome.
Wow, you really ARE that stupid. You drove 65mph in a straight line, with the AC on and you probably stopped at least one.
Please, explain how you think that makes you in shape and capable of being a race car driver.
Originally Posted by BigBlueCruiser
Yeah yeah, why don't you go out for open tryouts for an NFL team and tell me how you made out?
I have the ability to play a game of football. I can run, I can catch the ball and I can hit people. But I would never survive an NFL tryout. You certainly have the ability to drive a car. Whoopdee-friggen-doo, I can drive 1600 miles on an open interstate too. You think you would fair just as well driving on a professional racing circuit?

Hey I could ride a horse too, but I don't weigh 80 pounds dripping wet and I certainly don't know if I could hold onto that horse when it's galloping at 40+ MPH.
Please ignore BBC. He's still red-assed about his incorrect assertion that GM wasn't working on a Camaro and that you'd never see one by the end of the decade.
Last edited by Z28Wilson; Feb 28, 2007 at 07:53 AM.
Yeah? So what. I drove from Newark to Houston(1600miles) in 22 hours. Nothin but coke and tobacco. Wow.. I'm a freakin athlete too.
You boys need to grow up and realize that car racing is about cars. Horse racing is about horses. And neither drivers nor jockeys are prime to the outcome.
You boys need to grow up and realize that car racing is about cars. Horse racing is about horses. And neither drivers nor jockeys are prime to the outcome.
You're rediculous. Your argument is completely baseless. I am certainly NOT a NASCAR fan, but why don't YOU sit behind the wheel of a stock car and drive it near 200 MPH for several hours just inches away from 40-some other cars and tell me how YOU make out?
I have the ability to play a game of football. I can run, I can catch the ball and I can hit people. But I would never survive an NFL tryout. You certainly have the ability to drive a car. Whoopdee-friggen-doo, I can drive 1600 miles on an open interstate too. You think you would fair just as well driving on a professional racing circuit?
Hey I could ride a horse too, but I don't weigh 80 pounds dripping wet and I certainly don't know if I could hold onto that horse when it's galloping at 40+ MPH.
Please ignore BBC. He's still red-assed about his incorrect assertion that GM wasn't working on a Camaro and that you'd never see one by the end of the decade.
I have the ability to play a game of football. I can run, I can catch the ball and I can hit people. But I would never survive an NFL tryout. You certainly have the ability to drive a car. Whoopdee-friggen-doo, I can drive 1600 miles on an open interstate too. You think you would fair just as well driving on a professional racing circuit?

Hey I could ride a horse too, but I don't weigh 80 pounds dripping wet and I certainly don't know if I could hold onto that horse when it's galloping at 40+ MPH.
Please ignore BBC. He's still red-assed about his incorrect assertion that GM wasn't working on a Camaro and that you'd never see one by the end of the decade.

I don't know how I'd make out. But there's certainly no PHYSICAL limitation dictating that I don't have a chance.
But I know how you, me or any "athlete" nascrap driver would make out at a tryout for a real professional sport. Not a chance in hell.
I don't dispute they have skills. They're skilled machine operators. But they're not athletes. Bowlers are more of athletes than race car drivers. At least they're not relying on a giant 800hp machine to get their ball down the track.
Hey jack*ss read your last assertion. If GM wasn't working on a camaro why would you see one by the end of the decade?
Last edited by BigBlueCruiser; Feb 28, 2007 at 11:18 PM.
Being in shape doesn't make you an athlete, moron. Most actors are in shape, too.
And neither does being able to DRIVE A CAR at 200mph. What's the physical disciminator?
They're very skilled car drivers. That's it.
I think it's a bit unfair to dismiss something as "non-athletic" without even attempting it first.
Race car drivers are not athletes in the "traditional" sense, but they do use many of the same skills traditional athletes do -- hand-eye coordination, quick reflexes, endurance under pressure and competition....I do think it can be physically and mentally exhausting to drive under those conditions (race cars don't have things like climate control, or sound deadening/heat insulating materials, the temperatures in the cockpit are very high).
I'm not even a big motorsports fan. I like grass-roots drag racing, and rally-racing is neat, but I could never understand the appeal of watching colorful cars turn left for 4 hours.
In the end, whether or not you want to define someone as an "athlete" is just a matter of semantics or opinion. You're a bafoon if you don't at least believe it's a difficult thing to do. We'd all be race car drivers if that wasn't the case.
Race car drivers are not athletes in the "traditional" sense, but they do use many of the same skills traditional athletes do -- hand-eye coordination, quick reflexes, endurance under pressure and competition....I do think it can be physically and mentally exhausting to drive under those conditions (race cars don't have things like climate control, or sound deadening/heat insulating materials, the temperatures in the cockpit are very high).
I'm not even a big motorsports fan. I like grass-roots drag racing, and rally-racing is neat, but I could never understand the appeal of watching colorful cars turn left for 4 hours.
In the end, whether or not you want to define someone as an "athlete" is just a matter of semantics or opinion. You're a bafoon if you don't at least believe it's a difficult thing to do. We'd all be race car drivers if that wasn't the case.
Last edited by Z28Wilson; Mar 1, 2007 at 07:48 AM.
Lets just throw racecraft skill out for now.
Most likely, some of us can probably physical survive through 4 hours of slugging it out on in a NASCAR racecar in a real race. Maybe most, if you say surviving is simply breathing and such. Although alot of us would be probably be "dying" under the extreme heat at least.
However I doubt on a very small slice of those people can honestly say they were as mentally sharp and aware as they could have been in the last 30 mins of the race as they were in the begining, because of the constant physical assault of high temps, high vibratins, fighting the wheel and g forces, etc.
And in racing, the slightest hesitation and mistake, will at least cause you to lose a position.. or worse. You want the car to be the limiting factor.. Not the driver complaing "oh man,I botched that lap because I'm just getting too exhausted to think 100% straight, its almost hot to breath, and my arms are numb!"
Thats where some physical training comes into play. If your body is used to high stress situations, your mind will be less distracted. You train that driver so they can effective physically run a marathon - then sitting in a racecar hostile environment in 4 hours wouldn't be as stressful, because their body is trained to operate more effectively under high temp and stress situations.
BTW, off topic, I was in this training class for work, and the instructor was Canadian.. and did lots of training overseas.. Anyways, he said only in America do people drink soda in the morning. You believe that?
Most likely, some of us can probably physical survive through 4 hours of slugging it out on in a NASCAR racecar in a real race. Maybe most, if you say surviving is simply breathing and such. Although alot of us would be probably be "dying" under the extreme heat at least.
However I doubt on a very small slice of those people can honestly say they were as mentally sharp and aware as they could have been in the last 30 mins of the race as they were in the begining, because of the constant physical assault of high temps, high vibratins, fighting the wheel and g forces, etc.
And in racing, the slightest hesitation and mistake, will at least cause you to lose a position.. or worse. You want the car to be the limiting factor.. Not the driver complaing "oh man,I botched that lap because I'm just getting too exhausted to think 100% straight, its almost hot to breath, and my arms are numb!"
Thats where some physical training comes into play. If your body is used to high stress situations, your mind will be less distracted. You train that driver so they can effective physically run a marathon - then sitting in a racecar hostile environment in 4 hours wouldn't be as stressful, because their body is trained to operate more effectively under high temp and stress situations.
BTW, off topic, I was in this training class for work, and the instructor was Canadian.. and did lots of training overseas.. Anyways, he said only in America do people drink soda in the morning. You believe that?
Last edited by Ken S; Mar 1, 2007 at 06:31 PM.
Personally, I love a nice, carbonated Diet Coke at 7 AM on my hour ride to work
I can't stand coffee. Oddly, my fiance is the same way. Neither one of us know anyone else who drinks soda in the morning. We're alike in odd ways
I can't stand coffee. Oddly, my fiance is the same way. Neither one of us know anyone else who drinks soda in the morning. We're alike in odd ways
Same here.. my wife too.. We used to go through cases of those cans.. till just recently, when we decided to take a break from drinking diet coke.
For me, Diet Coke needs to come from a can, a little cold, not too cold... The only way I can really enjoy it.
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