For anyone who actually cares what is said during Nascar telecasts...
Most of you complaining about what NASCAR has become are about two and half decades or so too late at this point...it is what it is.
Personally, I'll watch some of almost any kind of racing for a while although I don't get too excited about any racing that only goes in a circle but whatever many "old time" fans happen to think (and I can relate); it's difficult to argue with how successful NASCAR has been in recent years with the general public and in generating lot's of money for the owners.
Profesional racing, like all professional sports of any kind is all about business and money - fans may want to think otherwise but they are just wrong!
Personally, I'll watch some of almost any kind of racing for a while although I don't get too excited about any racing that only goes in a circle but whatever many "old time" fans happen to think (and I can relate); it's difficult to argue with how successful NASCAR has been in recent years with the general public and in generating lot's of money for the owners.
Profesional racing, like all professional sports of any kind is all about business and money - fans may want to think otherwise but they are just wrong!
For any serious motorsport that has races that last longer than just a few seconds, there is a definite advantage for being physically fit. Even in NASCAR... You are in a full race suit, in a box thats massively vibrating around, and extremely hot, fighting the controls, making complex decisions and continously taking the car right to the limits, over and over again, for hours.
If your body can't keep up with the demands, you get "brain fade".. Where the physical demands start affect both mind and body. And when that happens, you start making errors, and slow down.
The more extreme the motorsport, the more important this becomes. The best drivers are just about as physically and mentally focused at the end of the race as they are at the end.
So with all the money and expectations poured onto a pro racer, they better have personal trainers to help them be in tip top form. Why spend so much money on a car, if the driver itself is going to be too fatiuged to drive it 100% by the end of the race?
That all said and done, last show I watched, there was this NASCAR racer, that was pretty well ranked, that boasted that he did not follow any exercise or physical trianing (which was believable, looking at him ).. lmao.
Kinda like that Olympic skiier basically never really trains, drinks at bars the night before, and "only" gets a Bronze? You guys know who I'm talking about?
If your body can't keep up with the demands, you get "brain fade".. Where the physical demands start affect both mind and body. And when that happens, you start making errors, and slow down.
The more extreme the motorsport, the more important this becomes. The best drivers are just about as physically and mentally focused at the end of the race as they are at the end.
So with all the money and expectations poured onto a pro racer, they better have personal trainers to help them be in tip top form. Why spend so much money on a car, if the driver itself is going to be too fatiuged to drive it 100% by the end of the race?
That all said and done, last show I watched, there was this NASCAR racer, that was pretty well ranked, that boasted that he did not follow any exercise or physical trianing (which was believable, looking at him ).. lmao.
Kinda like that Olympic skiier basically never really trains, drinks at bars the night before, and "only" gets a Bronze? You guys know who I'm talking about?
You've obviously never had to think for more than 10 minutes at a time. It's exhausting. It's a mental and physical sport. Go get on a go-kart(not them slow pieces of **** you pay $5 to drive, but a racing cart) and drive it for 3 hours with 42 others.....at the end, you'll be beat, I promise. Then, go do your sponsor appearances and tv crap, hop back in it on Thursday for practice, qual on Fri, practice on Sat with the possibility of a Busch race, then race on Sunday. Repeat.
If you've ever raced anything for more than 30 minutes with the true competative spirit, you know they're athletes.
You've obviously never had to think for more than 10 minutes at a time. It's exhausting. It's a mental and physical sport. Go get on a go-kart(not them slow pieces of **** you pay $5 to drive, but a racing cart) and drive it for 3 hours with 42 others.....at the end, you'll be beat, I promise. Then, go do your sponsor appearances and tv crap, hop back in it on Thursday for practice, qual on Fri, practice on Sat with the possibility of a Busch race, then race on Sunday. Repeat.
If you've ever raced anything for more than 30 minutes with the true competative spirit, you know they're athletes.
If you've ever raced anything for more than 30 minutes with the true competative spirit, you know they're athletes.
You should try being on a team of 7 in a 24-hour race in Portugal against Europe's best! I learned more that day than all others combined!
And now look at J Pablo Montoya and how hard he personally says Nascar racing is...
I'll give any race driver their due. Sure, Nascar drivers have to have some stamina, and driving abilities that your neighbor probally doesn't have.
But that's with any sport, especially racing.
But the same can be said for wrestling, which is all Nascar is now. A race equvalent to professional wrestling. Traveling drama show and all.
This thread started with indignation about Darrell Waltrip's comment that the Toyota Camry is the only car in Nascar that's actually made in the US. This was a stark, and obviously planned plug in an arena that has a high concentration of "flag waving Americans" whose other car is probally a pickup truck as part of Toyota's plan to become an "American" car company.
My swipe, in return is that all cars in Nascar are made in America, so in effect it was a stupid statement. The added edge in my swipe is that Nascar has zip to do with actual cars you can buy anymore, save the money the automakers send race teams to put their stickers on Nascar bodies. His tiein of Nascar to a regular car was a plug, and I'm flabberghasted that there's a couple here rushing to defend him, focusing on my Nascar swipe and completely missing the the framework of his comment itself and how ridiculous it is.
Sure, I think watching Nascar is about as fun as watching grass grow, with the only difference is that people are mesmerized by all the pretty colors flashing by and the drama that's manufactured all under the banners of "Home Depot", "Viagra", "Tide" or any of the other advertizers whose name is mentioned as a prefix to any reference to the word car. Nascar's efforts to make all cars the exact same has now reached it's final conclusion in the "Car Of Tomorrow" vehicles, where there everything is identical and the racing aspect has been completely abolished and the advertizers and drivers names are all that's mentioned instead of the brand of car. But I still support anyone's right to watch it.
Personally, me on the other hand, prefers REAL racing where the CARS are the focus and the drivers are tied more with a particular car than someplace I go when I need a hamburger.
But that's with any sport, especially racing.
But the same can be said for wrestling, which is all Nascar is now. A race equvalent to professional wrestling. Traveling drama show and all.
This thread started with indignation about Darrell Waltrip's comment that the Toyota Camry is the only car in Nascar that's actually made in the US. This was a stark, and obviously planned plug in an arena that has a high concentration of "flag waving Americans" whose other car is probally a pickup truck as part of Toyota's plan to become an "American" car company.
My swipe, in return is that all cars in Nascar are made in America, so in effect it was a stupid statement. The added edge in my swipe is that Nascar has zip to do with actual cars you can buy anymore, save the money the automakers send race teams to put their stickers on Nascar bodies. His tiein of Nascar to a regular car was a plug, and I'm flabberghasted that there's a couple here rushing to defend him, focusing on my Nascar swipe and completely missing the the framework of his comment itself and how ridiculous it is.
Sure, I think watching Nascar is about as fun as watching grass grow, with the only difference is that people are mesmerized by all the pretty colors flashing by and the drama that's manufactured all under the banners of "Home Depot", "Viagra", "Tide" or any of the other advertizers whose name is mentioned as a prefix to any reference to the word car. Nascar's efforts to make all cars the exact same has now reached it's final conclusion in the "Car Of Tomorrow" vehicles, where there everything is identical and the racing aspect has been completely abolished and the advertizers and drivers names are all that's mentioned instead of the brand of car. But I still support anyone's right to watch it.
Personally, me on the other hand, prefers REAL racing where the CARS are the focus and the drivers are tied more with a particular car than someplace I go when I need a hamburger.
You've obviously never had to think for more than 10 minutes at a time. It's exhausting. It's a mental and physical sport. Go get on a go-kart(not them slow pieces of **** you pay $5 to drive, but a racing cart) and drive it for 3 hours with 42 others.....at the end, you'll be beat, I promise. Then, go do your sponsor appearances and tv crap, hop back in it on Thursday for practice, qual on Fri, practice on Sat with the possibility of a Busch race, then race on Sunday. Repeat.
If you've ever raced anything for more than 30 minutes with the true competative spirit, you know they're athletes.
If you've ever raced anything for more than 30 minutes with the true competative spirit, you know they're athletes.
Yeah? So what. I drove from Newark to Houston(1600miles) in 22 hours. Nothin but coke and tobacco. Wow.. I'm a freakin athlete too.
You boys need to grow up and realize that car racing is about cars. Horse racing is about horses. And neither drivers nor jockeys are prime to the outcome.
Hell, go for arena football. Damn do something that doesn't require you planting your *ss in a seat and turning a steering wheel.
Calling race car drivers athletes is like calling nascar stock car racing.
Last edited by BigBlueCruiser; Feb 27, 2007 at 10:28 PM.


