89Vert

305's got 3.45 or 3.42 with dual cat depending if you are 9 or 10 bolt,

350's got 3.27 or 3.23

89Vert

best I can do for proof is this our 1/4 mile times for the year on Vanfbody,
not my fault people can't drive, my bro ran 105mph in a stock L98 w/5 speed and I had a guy jump down my throat about that to,
people forget how much of a factor elevation is in 1/4 mile time

here is his post http://www.vancouverfbody.com/forums...p?topic=6891.0

heres the time list http://www.vancouverfbody.com/forums...p?topic=6711.0


also I'd be pretty pissed if I had your motor running those times, buddy of mine ran a high 11 with his 383 and only dyno 300hp and he was in a vert
I'm shooting for 12's with my bro's 355 with stock heads,

but we had the right guys do the bottom end and head work
www.richmondengines.com my cousin works there


richmond engines just did a nitrous ready 305 for another cousin of mine, and he should be way into the 12's on a 150 shot

roosterjuicer

for the record i never claimed my car to be a 13 second car. i just claim it to be a 5.0 eater

89Vert

I claimed I know guys that run 13's in 305's and every word is true,
just cause some people can't get there car to perform doesn't mean others can't

89Vert

oh and the LT1's running 14's aguement, LT1 hp is way over rated and the car is heavy,
I have a 95 z28 6 speed vert, it was so slow I had to put a blower on it

LB9's and L98's hp is under rated

89Vert

thats sounds about right for a fox body

RedIrocZ-28

Stock L98 with a T5 @ 105mph?!

Your argument about elevation doesn't apply to me. Where I race I am never over 575ft above sea level. If 1/10 mile above sea level is going to somehow cost me 13mph in 1/4 time I am moving to Ohio and racing ar Norwalk from now on. (My 350 stock was 92mph- just like all the magazine tests I found from back in the day, and surely not 105mph)

Your claims of people with stock cars running well past their potential is just insane. LT1 cars power overrated? Why were they faster than 3rd gens?

I give up on this argument. No one is going to win. You're going to keep on with the stock as stock can be 305 cars in the 13's and I'm going to laugh because of how impossible that is with a stock 305 car.

BlackRabbitZ28

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but how is that impossible? Is it really hard to believe that someones car is faster then yours stock, and or they are a better driver?

You're going to tell me since you could not hit 13.9 in the 1/4 that no one else can? Because you are the absolute best driver ever and every car is identical 110% and every car is treated the same with the same regular maintenance.

I dont know if I believe him about 13.9 or not. I really don't care, but I guess its possible. If someone is a good driver and maybe it is a factory freak why can't it happen? You get lemons why cant you get freaks?

Black305RS

just so you know a lot of stock factory engines leave the factory bored over due to a mishap in the manufacturing proccess. they may have botched a cylinder walll or something and instead of scrapping the block they bore it over, or for whatever reason. so not all 305s out there that came stock are actually 305s some may be more and there is really no way to prove one way or the other. this is true for all engines. and as we all know a bigger bore can create more power.

npt saying this is the case but it is a possibility.

Marc 85Z28

89Vert - I'll give you that the 305 G92 cars were underrated and overlooked, and were on par with the L98 cars and 5.0s of the same era. However I will not EVER believe any stock 305, regardless of options, went 13s. I don't care where Mission dragway is, but around the Mid-Atlantic area we often see "mineshaft" conditions (sub 50 temps, DA sometimes in the range of 1500ft below sea level). Cars run quick around here. 305s, even the G92s are low-mid 14s at best with minor bolt-ons. 1.8 60' in a stock 305, without tires? Hell, even with tires? BS

I suppose stock LS1s run mid 12s up there too

Finally, you claim the average LT1 is overrated (we'll go with 285 for the sake of arguement), and the 305 is underrated (230 on your magical LB9/G92). That's a 55HP difference, and real world results (everywhere but the lala land you live in) prove it. The LT1 heads and intake flow TONS more air than the LB9, and the cam is more aggressive. Exhaust manifolds are better too. Then there is the 45ci difference. Your claims are rediculous, and most here recognize that. Stop misinforming those who are new.

89Vert

I'm not mis informing anybody, I've seen these cars with my own eyes, I know the people that own them well, and Ive seen them run the times,

I ran a 15.0 at 93 mph in my 305 and I'm not saying for 1 second I could get my car into the 13's but I know guys that have done it,
I post links which is the best I can do,

also LS1's are capable of 12's with a good driver, I know a guy that runs low 13's in his LS1 and hes not that good of a driver,

I've only ever seen 1 LT1 run break into a 13 and it wasn't stock
thet are a heavier car then a 3rd gen,
just like mid 90's stangs have more power then fox bodies, and fox bodies break into the 13's all the time with just a CIA, h pipe and exhaust

honestly, I'm done with arguing, they ran it, its doable,

1 final note, my buddies player's car with a heavy 10 point cage ran 100mph, 100% as it came from GM 305 5 speed



http://www.vancouverfbody.com/forums...p?topic=6891.0

89Vert

just wondering how often you guys make it to the track?

we got street legals at a local NHRA track at least 3 fridays a month during race season,

I'm just passing on what I see,


another 13 second 305

http://www.vancouverfbody.com/forums...hp?topic=139.0

R/T .559
60' 2.132
330 6.030
1/8 9.069
MPH 81.77
1000 11.653
1/4 13.801
MPH 105.49

this guy has pulled 1.80 60' times in that car,
mean its not unreasonable that car could run a 13.5

Marc 85Z28

89Vert - been checking out the links you posted. Looks like you need to learn the meaning of "stock" before you go throwing it around carelessly. Reminds me of the 5.0 guys years ago. News flash: bolt-ons is NOT stock!

And that guy Marco/Ace Holio - one of the super duper fast stock 305 guys, was running mid 14s just a few months ago, with MPH around 96 (with bolt-ons mind you, not stock). How did he get so much quicker? Its not the driving

And I know that some of the Canadian 3rd gens came with unusual options compared to the US counterparts (ex: LG4s without the CCC QJet), but how so many there are claiming such rediculous times from these cars, when no one else anywhere else claims such quick 305s is beyond me. Don't you find that odd? Or do you just buy into the fact that EVERYONE else can't drive, and that your little club has the worlds best drivers...

Pneumatic_Tire

Yeah ok. if you click on that link and go to the page, the guy says my STOCK 305 tpi numbers.....then another guy posts and says the car is not stock. THEN the guy comes back and posts that it is all stock, as in LONG BLOCK. That means the pistons and crank are stock. He probably has done a cam and fricken heads on it. LOL!

89Vert

Ace/marco converted from auto to stick, went from 2.73 to 3.45