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07-20-2008, 01:20 PM
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I'm sure a lot of folks thought the same thing in 1973 and 1979 too. But our world is a lot more dynamic than that. Fact is - the world still has plenty of oil. Once supplies get straightened out (eg, drilling here in the US) oil will be cheaper - and America's 100-year love affair with the automobile can continue as God intended 
Anyway, my primary answer to the question: "why is everyone really complaining so much?" remains:
"Because weight is bad for each and every aspect of performance"
07-20-2008, 01:22 PM
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07-20-2008, 01:42 PM
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the concept had the tach on the left, like the 4th gens. but the production has it on the right like the 1st gens.
i wonder if itll be easy to change.
07-20-2008, 01:47 PM
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07-20-2008, 03:43 PM
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07-20-2008, 03:55 PM
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Beautiful car will fit nice in the revised pony car war.
Hopefully the price of oil and GM taking so damn long will not kill it.
Only thing worries me is the weight but the Challenger too is heavy so right now the Mustang looks like it may have the edge especially with aftermarket horse power increases.
Still I would pick the Camaro over the three.
I can see a lot of V6 sales if the HP is approaching 300,, wonder what the tourque is.
Hopefully the price of oil and GM taking so damn long will not kill it.
Only thing worries me is the weight but the Challenger too is heavy so right now the Mustang looks like it may have the edge especially with aftermarket horse power increases.
Still I would pick the Camaro over the three.
I can see a lot of V6 sales if the HP is approaching 300,, wonder what the tourque is.
07-20-2008, 05:16 PM
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Only if you drive a 4th gen.
1-3 is tach on right, speedo on left
First gen
Second Gen
Third Gen
Fourth Gen
Fifth Gen
Which one is not like the others?
Hell, even how it was done from 1-3 was the same. Two seperate pods, no overlap, full sweep guages with each other guage having its own full sweep section.
4th Gens? They bunched them all together, with half sweep.
4th Gen is the Anti-Camaro. It evolved into a different type of car, with no similarity to its previous variants.
Long nose/short deck: 1st, 2nd, 3rd gens
Dustbuster/Concorde Coupe: 4th gen
1-3 is tach on right, speedo on left
First gen
Second Gen
Third Gen
Fourth Gen
Fifth Gen
Which one is not like the others?
Hell, even how it was done from 1-3 was the same. Two seperate pods, no overlap, full sweep guages with each other guage having its own full sweep section.
4th Gens? They bunched them all together, with half sweep.
4th Gen is the Anti-Camaro. It evolved into a different type of car, with no similarity to its previous variants.
Long nose/short deck: 1st, 2nd, 3rd gens
Dustbuster/Concorde Coupe: 4th gen
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07-20-2008, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by formula79
The Edmonds video says the RS Package is an appearance deal with HID's, 20" wheels and spoiler....and it can come with both the V6 car, and the SS. My guess is these pictures are of loaded up cars that will run $27-$30K irregardless of price. If you want a stripper $20K V6 car, you will have ugly headlights, no spoiler, 17"s, and decontented interior.
The ambient lighting you can get isnt part of the RS package anyways .
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07-20-2008, 06:18 PM
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Anyway, my primary answer to the question: "why is everyone really complaining so much?" remains:
"Because weight is bad for each and every aspect of performance"
"Because weight is bad for each and every aspect of performance"
In fact, the survey right on this site has people who care about car price outnumbering those who care about curb weight, roughly TWO TO ONE.
OBTW weight is not bad for EVERY aspect of a car's performance. Studies have shown that in a head-on crash between two cars, where one is half the mass of the other, occupants in the lighter car are EIGHT TIMES more likely to die
Think a little about that, next time you hop in your old Datsun for a ride
07-20-2008, 06:47 PM
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Yes, yes. Everyone wants it lighter. But the weight is competitive with other cars of similar seating capacity, layout, and HP and TQ (when the Mustang has 400hp and IRS, come back and talk to me about it), and there's nothing to be done about it at this point anyway.
07-20-2008, 07:12 PM
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07-20-2008, 07:47 PM
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The new Camaro doesn't need to be "saved". It will succeed despite gas prices, which BTW, are not all that wildly out of line with inflation anyway.
"Everyone" is not complaining. Just a very loud minority
In fact, the survey right on this site has people who care about car price outnumbering those who care about curb weight, roughly TWO TO ONE.
OBTW weight is not bad for EVERY aspect of a car's performance. Studies have shown that in a head-on crash between two cars, where one is half the mass of the other, occupants in the lighter car are EIGHT TIMES more likely to die
Think a little about that, next time you hop in your old Datsun for a ride
"Everyone" is not complaining. Just a very loud minority
In fact, the survey right on this site has people who care about car price outnumbering those who care about curb weight, roughly TWO TO ONE.
OBTW weight is not bad for EVERY aspect of a car's performance. Studies have shown that in a head-on crash between two cars, where one is half the mass of the other, occupants in the lighter car are EIGHT TIMES more likely to die
Think a little about that, next time you hop in your old Datsun for a ride
