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Old 09-11-2005, 11:43 AM
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Re: What camaro Model's do you want back in 08'

There ain't gonna be a stripper Z28 gang.

LS = base V6 model
LT = V6 with luxury upgrades
SS = V8

That's it gang.












... then 18 months later... oh please, oh please...
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Re: What camaro Model's do you want back in 08'

Originally Posted by jg95z28
There ain't gonna be a stripper Z28 gang.

LS = base V6 model
LT = V6 with luxury upgrades
SS = V8

That's it gang.












... then 18 months later... oh please, oh please...

dont preech these dirty lies
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dont preech these dirty lies
Sorry my friend, but if you look at the direction Chevrolet is going, its the only logical reality.









But I still hope the martian's 18 month out suggestion becomes a reality.
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Old 09-11-2005, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jg95z28
Sorry my friend, but if you look at the direction Chevrolet is going, its the only logical reality.









But I still hope the martian's 18 month out suggestion becomes a reality.
as long as the Z/28 returns as what it was intended to be, another 18months wont be that bad, but that thing better literally cut asphalt on turns.

And have some hella grunt' ive been waiting a long time for her return
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Originally Posted by 305fan
RS witha 5.3L or 4.8L is all I care about. (Hardtop, decent stereo, cruise a/c, power stuff and posi) Oh...maybe something that can go head to head with the Shlby Mustang

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Originally Posted by 97z28/m6
ever think that price is way too high for what it got you?
No, not at at all.

Originally Posted by TBI_InYourEye
300 RWHP We all know the new Mustang GT is somewhere around 40 HP shy of that...
Actually, it is probally about 300 RWHP. The car weighs 3500 pounds, yet accelerates to 60 as quickly as an LS1 despite having an actual 40 HP disadvantage.

Part of it is aggressive ratios, but that engine is significantly underrated as well.


Originally Posted by FutureZMan
maybe MSRP.

And the new GT's still aint as quick as that $23k LS1 Z28, that is yes 3 years dead now.
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.



Originally Posted by jg95z28
There ain't gonna be a stripper Z28 gang.

LS = base V6 model
LT = V6 with luxury upgrades
SS = V8...

LT!?

You mean someone actually listened?!
(There was a thread some time ago that I mentioned LT and a sports luxury Camaro and there was a long discussion on it here. I also recall mentioning this to someone with Chevy or GM once in a casual talk conversation).

If true, all I can say is....... WOW!
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ugh...no LS/LT Camaros.
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
What to do with SS?

Me personally, I see it as an entry level V8/trim package to compete with Mustang GT at the same price point. Not too firm suspension, coupe, convertible and lots of options. It should be the volume, attainable performance package.
I agree with this assessment as well. SS is the mainstream Mustang GT fighter. Z/28 should be the Camaro equivelant of the Corvette Z06 (best of everything, coupe only, hard edged performance). If they could bring it in at a price under the GT500, that would be a bonus.
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Originally Posted by 305fan
ugh...no LS/LT Camaros.
I don't want an LS, but "LT" (more specifically Type LT) has a long history on Camaros...I think they were the first Chevy to use the (Type) LT designation (though I could be wrong).
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Keep it simlpe and traditional..(Performance line up: )
RS- HOT V6, optional mid 8...
SS- HOT-Mid V8, TOP V8, NOT a jaw cracking suspension, all the toys...
Z28-Mid V8, TOP V8...corners like on rails...more Go than show..
(Price line up: )
RS- high teens to Low 20's
Z28- Low to mid 20's..
SS- high 20's to mid 30's

As in past, SS = top straight line performer, Z28 corner carver...
Mid 20s for a V8 Camaro? I would like to see that happen, but if you look at the 4th gens price, I have a hard time believing that GM can deliver this car for that price. The base price on a 4th gen Z28 was around $24,000, I never seen one go for less than $26,500. Take the 4th gen price, and add in a new car (Not one built for the last 20 years), and the price that can entail, and do all that in 2008 dollars (Not 2002 dolalrs)... I don't think this is going to be a poor man's supercar. Not that it was before they stopped production on the 4th gen...
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This is the line up I want to see.

The Z28 should be the Camaro version of the Z06. Thus it will be the highest performer, but low on the options(not a stripper though). Hard top only, 6 speed only, only leather, so on. Give the Z28 the base Corvette motor. We should assume the C6 LS2 is underrated, so it should make about 400 through Camaro exhaust. It should still be slower than the base C6 because of aerodynamics and weight even though the horsepower is about the same. 18 inch wheels. This will be the ***** to the wall top Camaro.

The SS should have the 5.3L roughly 380 hp LS2. However you will be able to get this car fully loaded; convertible, all power, all the special stuff, Onstar, leather, auto or 6 spd. You need a choice of wheels here. Different styles in 17s or 18s. This will be a go fast look good Camaro.

Then call the V6 base car an RS and give it the 3.9L. Make it cheap and nice base price but with the options of the SS.

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Originally Posted by guionM
No, not at at all.
so you think chevy priced the base camaro at the right price yet ford priced their pony car much less. gee i wonder why the camaro isn't being made anymore.
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Re: What camaro Model's do you want back in 08'

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LT!?

You mean someone actually listened?!
(There was a thread some time ago that I mentioned LT and a sports luxury Camaro and there was a long discussion on it here. I also recall mentioning this to someone with Chevy or GM once in a casual talk conversation).

If true, all I can say is....... WOW!
Sounds like a strong hint to me
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Re: What camaro Model's do you want back in 08'

Where does the idea of the SS being the midrange camaro and the Z28 being the top dog come from? When did the Z28 ever have a hotter engine than the top SS models? Is it due to the SS originally having several engine setups available, some of which were weaker than the Z28's 302?? That's kinda minor to me as even in 67 the 375hp 396 was available in the SS which would eat the 302 Z28's lunch on the dragstrip.

I could maybe see the Z28 being the real corner carver since that's what it was originally but I would think the great handling Z28 coupled w/ the 5.3 being a more likely setup and harken more to the original, why would it get a 6.0 LS2 while the SS gets strapped w/ something like the 5.3? That just seems backwards...

W/ GMs recent treatment of the SS being the top model across the board I just don't see it being much different then it was before. I'm kinda figuring the SS will continue to be a 10-20 hp extra, mainly appearance package over the Z28 if they have both models at all...

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Re: What camaro Model's do you want back in 08'

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Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

oh god this arguement again lol

Unless you have slips to prove to me otherwise, the LS1 is faster then a stock 05' GT.

Ive driven one my damn self, and the vette outpulls it anyday of the week and they are damn near identical (LS1 F-Bod | Vette) soooo, show me some slips or quit with saying 05' GTs are quicker then LS1 F-bods.
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