Does not compute.

"We know that there are GM "insiders" here who have information they can't divulge".

"If you can't prove your statement, it means nothing".

If you want to argue about something, try and avoid contradicting yourself in the same post.

For the record, I'm beginning to believe that we're going to see LS3 and LLP variants as the only two model choices until the Z/28 comes out.

I don't suppose we'd be lucky enough to see an LP9.

 

The G8 is a rebadged Holden Commadore and they use the L76 so that's what's going to be shipped over from Australia. However there is some info that Holden will be switching over the LS3 power so I would not be surprised if they phase out the L76 in the Commadore/G8 for the LS3. I doubt having two engines in the G8 makes a better business decision but it was obviously more important to get the G8 to the US and take what Holden had developed for the car than go for a lot of extra engineering and development on what could be be a sales bust.

Holden seems to be a bit behind in getting the latest and greatest GM powerpants. But I'm sure they have their own influience on the engines used as Holden sells cars around the world. So having the LS3 used in GM NA C6 probably was not at the top of their needs list.

For the Camaro there is not a need to have 2 V8's to charge a premium price. As we have seen in the 4th Gens GM can and did charge several thousand more for an SS option package over the Z28 with the same engine but rated differently due to a hood and exhaust. But it was the model package that sold not the engine.
Save cost and engineering on 1 V8 and then charge more for the SS or RS package because it will have hoods and spoilers, wheel/tire, suspension upgrades and maybe some trim changes on the interior. They can rate the LS3 at 402hp in the base V8 and 422 or 430hp in the SS and cite exhaust and intake upgrades. (just an example) Certification is one thing and marketing is another. Getting customers to pay for the more premuim package and having two models and 1 V8 is the way to make bigger profits.

 

They could, but all those names sound so gay.
Like Nissans R2D2-Jujitsu inline sixes, or was that Toyota?

They do have the L76, so I guess they could do that.

 

Holden actually uses the L98 now I believe, which is essentially an L76 w/o AFM components. And when they used the L76 AFM was disabled.

 

Are you serious? Since when does FWHP mean front wheel HP? FWHP means flywheel HP. Geez man are you as smart as you think or just a person that believes everything they read?

 

There is a big difference between the little wink wink hints we get from our insiders....and coming out and saying "This or that 100% Will/Will Not be an option on the Camaro"........and then criticizing others who don't agree with you. In those cases.....i think you need just a little for more than just words. Just be careful what you say...........

 

the 4th gen is probably the most unsuccessful in the history of the Camaro,it DIED with the 4th gen, it would be suicide for GM to try to copy the formula that didnt work. They need to offer more variations, like the way Ford did (with the only succesful pony car) with the Mustang when they offered the GT,Bullit, Mach1 and Terminator Cobras.

 

I really don't think they will make that same mistake again.........From what we've seen so far, it doesn't appear they will. I'm think we are going to see a very wide range of options.......unlike anything GM has produced in a long time..... that will make Camaro very appealing to buyers in a variety of different markets......Engine packages, accessories.......you name it. Somebody orginally looking a Accord or Camry might very easily find themselves considering this car.......

 

Ahem!!!!

Just because some people know does not mean they can or will give where they have gotten the info. Some people are very informed and due to where the info comes from they can not always give where it came from.

Not everyone is full of BS.

 

There are many reasons for the F-bodies demise and that's probably better left for a different thread. But I think it's safe to say the engine selection or their role in model usage was NOT one of the reasons. The engines used were probably the best part of the cars and may be the main reason many even purchased the car.

 

I'm not saying I know anything here but you guys have been told by GM AFM will be in the car Peper has told you 6.0L 400 plus hp V-8 Lutz has said it will get 30 mpg hwy and father has told you to forget everything you know about current engines. What i'm getting at here is GM has no 6.0L engine with afm that will reach those hp and mpg numbers. GM has told you that they have hp goals in mind when they build something and they will do whatever it takes to meet their goals including putting a supercharger on an engine. Now that's all fine and dandy when it comes to a car like the ZR1 but they cannot afford to do something like that with the camaro and keep the price down nor could they meet their mpg they have been telling you from the start so how do you think they will meet their hp goals and their mpg goals. They cant just keep upping the displacement like they have been for the last few years that's great for hp but not for mpg. If you take all the clues that you have been given since production was announced the only way they could meet their hp and mpg goals with a V-8 is with a smaller direct injection AFM VVT engine.

 

6.0L? Which one, the LS2?

 

Where did you get LS2 from.

 

Just throwing another 6.0L V8 out there since we've already had confirmation it won't get the L76.

 

First of all, it's Peper.

Second, I don't think anyone at GM has ever told us the displacement of the engine in the production V8 car. Anything Peper said about a 6.0L engine would have been in reference to the Concept.