You have me there. I have all of the things I want to do to my 99 available to me if I had the funds. I guess the point of view that I was trying to make was most people feel that there is not much you can do with the body. I personally woudn't change anything but items such as the spoiler (can be changed but the design of the replacement is restricted by the integration of the spoiler into the original rear deck) and hood (does it really get any better than the SS hood? ) have limited replacements available on the aftermarket.

The best thing about the 4th gens were the free mods

 

Yeah the shifter position sucked in the mustang. That was my old roomate's major complaint for his car (that and he regularly lost to me ). He preferred the seating position in my car but I don't think it was a big deal to him. By the way, He originally wanted a 99 Trans Am but bought the mustang because it was cheaper. I really like the styling of the Trans Am a little better than the Camaro and almost bought a 2001 formula firehawk but in the end I am just a Camaro guy .

 

My brother wants to sell his 89 turbo supra, and his 97 accord (he already sold his 68 beatle) all to get a new mustang. The kid has been anti-American cars for years, since he was 14... I have tried and tried to get him to look at f-bodies, and he has always said something stupid like hondas and toyotas can be just as fast for just as cheap, and they will last longer... So i gave up. Well now he absolutely loves the new mustang. All he has ever done is dump money into his supra and accord, and now he is willing to get rid of both and get a mustang. Maybe it is a California thing, but it is happening around here.

 

Don't worry. You would know it is happening when you hear my blood curdling over there in Jersey.

 

Weird stuff like that happens everywhere. I know someone who fell in love with an F-Body after driving it, and this is someone who owned a WRX. This kind of stuff doesn't necesarrily corelate to the Mustang grabbing hordes over import owners over to the dar side. Besides, an 05 GT is a huge step up form an 89 Turbo Supra, those things are toilets on wheels.

 

The driving position on the 4th gen fbodies is far better than the SN95 Mustang IMO. Having recently test driven a GTO, I can say it is very similar to the SN95, although the engineers at Holden made it so you could move the seat back to a comfortable position that is very reminiscent of the 4th gen fbodies. Brilliant move IMO.

 

Really? I'd take a Mk3 Supra Turbo over an 05 GT anyday, if I HAD to keep the car. The 7mgte is a very capable motor, and has alot of potential, you just have to get rid of the ****ty stock headgasket, lol.

Look in the top 10 and see how many are running 500+hp on stock internals.

7MPower

Edit- I just noticed, there are only like two in the top 10 running that much power stock, but the point remains, we all know how inaccurate those kind of lists are, and we can see how badass those motors are anyways.

 

Well those cars might be junk. But for someone to invest a ton of time and money into one, and love the car as much as he has, now be willing to get rid of it says something about the car he is willing to get rid of it for. It is pulling him away from a car that he has spent a lot of time and money on. You tried to make it seem like GuionM was way off base by saying that the mustang is getting import buyers to buy mustangs, because he doesn't have any hard evidence. Well I doubt there is any compiled data on the subject, but in my observations it has. I can't say if it is anymore so than any other cars like the charger, but I would think so.

 

I don't know. I do moderating duties on a large import board (their future vehicle section), and imo the new mustang has been very well recieved overall. There's a lot less negetitivty and more positive posts when it does come up in threads vs the sn95 (which was always ripped on). It also gets alot more love than either Cobalt SS, Focus SVT, or SRT4 neon.

I don't know anything about the buyers (doubt they're trading their imports in by the thousands), but i do know that it is much better recieved than most other mainstream domestics. I would say that the general attitude is a lot more positive.

 

I don't know if we are all the same wavelength. I am not talking about some hobby import enthusiasts, the Mustang may very well draw a few of them over to it's side. I am talking about the much more hardcore import enthusiasts, and I have yet to meet one in the real world (internet forums are a often a poor reflection of reality) who thought the car was some huge automotive performance revolution. Sorry, I am still not buying that. And saying the new Mustang may have drawn some import drivers over to it's side, one must acknowledge that it is very possible cars like the 350z, etc, could have stolen many domestic enthusiasts to the "import" world. That is too difficult a question to verify, due to the fact there is no real way to gain accurate data on it. I still stand by my point though, there is very little commotion in the real import enthusiast world over the new Mustang. Just pick up and read a few import magazines, they don't seem to care.

 

I am not a fan of the 1JZ engine. I know too many guys who have either had problems or know people who have had problems with those engines at high hp levels. Their propensity for head gasket problems especially at elevated boost levels would get old fast. The 2JZ, on the other hand, is an engine I have nothing but praise for.

 

LMAO...

The 1JZGTTE is a completely different motor than the 7MGTE offered in the US Supra Turbos. I believe HKS makes a metal headgasket that is supposed to virtually eliminate that problem.

 

What was the 1JZ used in then? I have always heard guys calling it the 1JZ in the MkIIIs.

*Edit - alittle researching on my own, and I have found that indeed, the 1JZ is not in the US MkIIIs. I guess my disdain is for the 7MGTE that comes in the MkIIIs.

 

No biggie, for a long time I referred to the mk3 supra turbo motor as the 1jz...Until someone finally corrected me.

Not that I know anything about the 1jz, but I believe it was used in foreign mk3 supras and a couple lexus models.

 

I'm pretty sure my brothers car has the motor out of a mk3 from japan.

But is there anything new on the threads title? I don't care about supras, I want Camaro info! Anyone have any thoughts on that?