OK... let me see if I got this right:
No on the license plate frame.
Yes sticking with the offensive handle of DV
No on the red light cams.
Yes on citing for no FLP, or was that no, as I remember from your earlier posts regarding SLP day at Ennis you were in fact going to cite those with no FLP if you caught them.

What I dont understand is how you could support something so silly as removal of license plate frames, and in the same sentance say you couldnt support red light cams that have been proven to save lives and only catch those who <actually> break the law and run a red light. I'd like to see how you could possibly defend a picture of your smiling face running a red light. Worried you'll lose your job to automation? what gives?

Sorry, but count me in with fastcam, I think your nick to be quite unprofessional. Give it some thought, and yeah, thats the best I can do.
I spose I'm with the rest of the kids on the playground, the frame law is in fact stupid. As for the "majority" voting for it, I dont think so - if the true voting majority were given the opportunity to decide, I think the outcome would be quite different. Shame on us for electing this state congress - they truely are embarrassing.

Have a nice day. <grin>

 

i'd sure like to see a quote from me about the license plates.

because i've gotten out of a car and had to tell the radio operator that i could not see the license plate. they had no information on the car i was stopping other than make and color. red light cameras don't save lives. they don't even reduce intersection accidents. they INCREASE rear end collisions in the intersections equipped with them. i wouldn't lose my job over it. and i believe in defending my constitutional rights.

i don't really care what anyone thinks about my ID. i like it, i will continue to keep it; especially since it was on this board well before most of you.

i think i'm done with this thread. the only thing this is doing is making people dumber reading it.

 

A license plate cover that makes the plate unreadable has always been illegal. A cover that touches the top of the "Texas" is now illegal - that is the rub because about 75% of the cars on the road have such a frame - of those about 50% were put on by the car dealer putting the poor driver in a spot he/she might not even know about. Sorry, but common sense says thats stupid.
Since when do your constitutional rights cover running red lights?
Here is the data supporting Red Light cameras and the reduction of collisions. Where is the scientific data supporting they increase rear end collisions? You complain about the childishness of others, yet fail to see it in yourself.

http://www.ci.boulder.co.us/publicwo...erformance.htm

http://www.portlandpolicebureau.com/...clusions-37516

http://www.ci.fairfax.va.us/Police/P...nt.htm#Results

http://www.oxnardpd.org/misc/redlite.htm


Damn shame the ennis thread is so old it appears to no longer be in the history or I would have provided the quote you requested.

Actually providing me an education on the mindset of some of our law enforcement. I always thought there was no such thing as ******* cops, couldnt happen, you folks are out there protecting me and mine day to day. Thankyou. Please dont ruin my vision.

 

of course government agencies are going to say they stop accidents; how else do they justify having them?

http://www.motorists.org/issues/enfo...giacenter.html
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...1/082izwax.asp
http://www.cipherwar.com/news/01/arm...ht_cameras.htm
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...18cameras.html

so i can copy and paste too; what's the point? there are more reasons that i disagree with that law than just accidents, as did our congress. i guess you need an educated opinion over a google search though. they are for money and that's it.

so far, i think i'm the only one with a valid defense for my stance on the LP law. let me summarize this thread:

"the new law is dumb."
"i agree with the law."
"you're dumb and the new law is dumb just because."
"why?"
"you're dumb, the law is dumb, and congress is dumb."
"why?"
"your name is dumb."

i hope none of you aspire to be lawyers. i'd hate to be your client. "your honor, my client is not guilty." "why?" "because, he's just not guilty."

that's kind of counterproductive isn't it? having an opinion, but no particular reason for it? i doubt congress is going to take the "it doesn't make my car look good" defense.

i write my congressmen when i have a particular interest or disagreement with a law. i also make it a point to write to them BEFORE it gets passed. here's an ingenious idea, instead of calling me names, why don't we act like adults and take steps to change what we don't agree with? instead of sitting around all day trying to come up with witty insults againt those who don't agree with us, how about using that time to write to the people who sign those laws into the book?

and i've NEVER said i would write for a front plate ticket. if you'd like though, you can be first.

 

I can understand making a case for covering up the numbering on the plate, as this is important. But to give up to a $200 ticket for obscuring Texas or any logo on the plate is rediculous. This would be like givimg a $200 ticket for removing the vehicle make and model badges from a car. I couldn't tell what the car was, it didn't say. As an officer, you should be able to recognise a texas state plate by seeing part of a plate. Admittingly, you can't figure out the numbers without seeing them. But if this is for the general public to be able to tell, most of them can't tell one car from another without looking at the badges.
Hence I think this is rediculouse as it just gives officers another reason to pull someone over, not because it really is a problem that they can't tell it's a Texas plate. Obscuring the actual number is and should be a crime.

 

as i said before, there are many states who have similar plates to ours. if i stop a car, call out the plate and the driver gets out and kills me, they're going to be looking for a car displaying those "texas" plates when in actuallity, those belonged to a different state. i've called out a lot of plates then had to go back and tell the radio operator that it was a different state because i couldn't readily tell where it was from. i don't know every plate issued by every state.

 

And if that person does get out and kill you, then I guess theres still a problem. Your dead and he got away, cause this is a Texas state law and other states (Until, or if they enact this law) aren't going to know about it or abid by it. Most Texans didn't know about after it was passed as a law.
If someone is intent on killing you, they aren't going to care about a law like that anyway. They are the type of people who, if they could, would cover most of the plate up.
Joe Blow down the road who has the dealer frame or aftermarket fram isn't thinking about killing anyone. He just can't be bothered to remove the frame or wants to dress his car up.
Hence this law isn't going to help you from getting killed then before this law since:-
1) out of staters arn't going to know about it till you pull them over.
2) the people likely to kill you aren't going to care anyway.
3) the people that will get tickets are people who's intent isn't hurting anyone, just vanity or lazyness or have a sports car that the officer wants a reason to pull over.