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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by Greed4Speed
Emissions should go by how your car is listed on your title which is based off your VIN#. Which would be a V6. You would be required to meet the same emission standards as the 6 cyl. There are also laws restricting you from running older technology and engines on newer cars. Look at the original post. The guy wants to put a carburated 350 in a 99 model.

Personally, I'd mod the 6cyl. Look what GTP's can run with virtually the same engine (not to mention GNXs and Syclones). Just slap on some form of forced induction of your choice and other mods (which has to be cheaper and less problematic than a V8 swap because it is ALWAYS more than just an engine swap) and go to the track. There is nothing quite like popping your hood after smokin a V8 to let the guy see a 6 cyl.
Since I've been into S-10s for a very long time, I know what it costs to get those Syclones and Typhoons making HP. Alot of $$$$. Its far cheaper to drop a small block in there and get 500hp than it is to get 500hp outta that V6. 400Hp will cost roughly 5,000 plus dyno time to tune the damn thing! GTPs are supercharged..Syclones are turbos. Yea you can throw a blower on a 2.8L or a 3.8L, but you won't have the hp of a V8. Hell setting up a 2.8L for a Fageol supercharger will end up costing you 4,000 plus dyno time to tune it. Thats only 300hp if you are lucky. Then you have to get that lil v6 tranny built up to v8 power, and you've gotta get new axles and gears so you don't snap em when you launch it on slicks. How much is the procharger setup for a 4.3 S-10. All said and done with everything...you're looking at 3500 in parts. You can get a v8 thats pushing 400hp for that alone. Then look at how much additional maintance you just added your self. I'll do the simple v8 swap..something reliable(as how many people have the cash to keep a 12psi blower reliable..go on..rip into the block..get forged pistons and rods before you crack the cast crap..see how much more that adds ya)It'd be nice to pop the hood and have a 400hp v6 under it(N/A that is...) that just blew away that mustang next to ya, but unless you have ohh lets say 8,000 or so to do everything. You can drop a V8 in it and be alot faster for less.

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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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Chaotic, you just made another point for me. It is never just an engine swap. It is the whole drive train and coolant system, with suspension and other mods. As for the stock rear not handling much power especially with slicks, that would be different from the stock V8 rear in what way? I know the stock Z28 3rd member doens't hold up with an LS1 or even an LT1 for long, especially if you run slicks. They're all week, thats why the fast 4th gens are going to 9" or 12 bolt rears.

The Turbo and supercharged cars mentioned aren't that difficult to get going fast. An upgraded turbo for the Syclone and GNX run ~$650. Use that and an aftermarket waste gate and you'll have a very quick vehicle even with the stock short block.

Again, my previous responses have been based mainly on the original post of going to a carburated 350.
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by Greed4Speed
Chaotic, you just made another point for me. It is never just an engine swap. It is the whole drive train and coolant system, with suspension and other mods. As for the stock rear not handling much power especially with slicks, that would be different from the stock V8 rear in what way? I know the stock Z28 3rd member doens't hold up with an LS1 or even an LT1 for long, especially if you run slicks. They're all week, thats why the fast 4th gens are going to 9" or 12 bolt rears.

The Turbo and supercharged cars mentioned aren't that difficult to get going fast. An upgraded turbo for the Syclone and GNX run ~$650. Use that and an aftermarket waste gate and you'll have a very quick vehicle even with the stock short block.

Again, my previous responses have been based mainly on the original post of going to a carburated 350.
I know its never just a swap. But its still how fast you want to go. Whats a turbo gonna add? 40-50hp? Ok, but what about when you want 200hp. Upgrade the fuel injectors, upgrade the intercooler. And so forth. Its still far cheaper to build a 500hp V8 than a 500hp v6.
Old Apr 24, 2003 | 08:09 AM
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Just because you make 500hp doesn't mean you'll beat a car with less hp. I ran and beat many BB cars with my SB, and it wasn't because my SB was making more power. Yes, it is easier to make more power with a V8, but you'll spend about the same trying to put an 8cyl in a 6 cyl car as you would modding the 6 cyl. I continue to see forced induction equipped V6s run with if not beating V8s, and talking to the owners they cost about the same to build.

Like I said before its your car and money, do what you want. I was just saying if I had a 6 cyl, I'd rather mod it. To me it isn't worth the hassle when I can just sell the 6cyl car and go buy a Z28 or Formula. If the alternative was to go back to carburation, I'd get an older car they're cheaper to buy, insurance, and build with much more room in the engine bay.

For the 3rd time! My comments have been primarily directed to the ORIGINAL concept of putting in a carburated 350.
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