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Old Mar 20, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Thank you


Just stirring up the old rivalry pot, nothing big. I'm a former Z owner so i'm fairly biased on both cars. Pics of the Z are still on the wall here in my house

And I feel the pot needs stirring... I fully expect this thread to be booming this summer

you know what irritates me a little... no matter how much we mod, cars are getting ridiculously fast from the factory, it can be tough to keep yourself ahead.. luckily safety regs are causing newer cars to weigh a little more... that's about our only advantage
Old Mar 20, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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Nobody else wants to go hang out at the track with all the stang owners out there "gangstering"



Old Mar 24, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Hopefully when the weather clears up I can find some KB Cobras... or some sprayed/eaton cobras.
Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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Hopefully when the weather clears up I can find some KB Cobras... or some sprayed/eaton cobras.
Very nice!

Any idea what your car runs?
Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Very nice!

Any idea what your car runs?
Thanks.

Waiting for better weather to hit the dyno. Stock heads are gonna hurt me, plus I am using exhaust manifolds on this kit... I would guess 550rwhp @ 12-14psi. That should be enought to play with a low boosting KB car or an eaton car with a 100 shot.

Next up is a set of heads and I'll fab a PT88 kit (hopefully by the fall).
Old Mar 24, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
Thanks.

Waiting for better weather to hit the dyno. Stock heads are gonna hurt me, plus I am using exhaust manifolds on this kit... I would guess 550rwhp @ 12-14psi. That should be enought to play with a low boosting KB car or an eaton car with a 100 shot.

Next up is a set of heads and I'll fab a PT88 kit (hopefully by the fall).


That will be quite a toy!

No track times yet either?
Old Mar 24, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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That will be quite a toy!

No track times yet either?
I need to tune it on the dyno first, then I'll try and hit the track rental at LVD in May.
Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:52 AM
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This site is definately not geared to Lt1 owners...go take a look at the for sale section
Old Mar 27, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bkpliskin
unless you're talking about a 96-97 SS, which would be dead even with an 08 mustang gt... and with this comparison I am talking about when both cars were brand new right off the showroom floor, not a 150k mile LT1 vs a factory fresh GT


Originally Posted by bkpliskin
if you didn't want to get into it then why did you comment on it?????

an 08 GT is roughly a 13.7 to 13.8 car on average
a 97 SS was roughly the same when they were brand new... so how am I wrong???

not to mention that the 305hp and 335tq the SS was putting out is more than an 08GT in both categories
more like a 14.0 average car. Check sig to see how I know.

Originally Posted by DarkHorse
The bench-racing season is over now that Spring is here. I'm sure the GM camp will all run back to their boxes, only posting ridiculous ''street'' races since there's no timing clocks and nobody to video their losses.

Street racing is for guys who are afraid to be humbled by reality (the track.)

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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
Hopefully when the weather clears up I can find some KB Cobras... or some sprayed/eaton cobras.
Originally Posted by RealQuick
Thanks.

Waiting for better weather to hit the dyno. Stock heads are gonna hurt me, plus I am using exhaust manifolds on this kit... I would guess 550rwhp @ 12-14psi. That should be enought to play with a low boosting KB car or an eaton car with a 100 shot.

Next up is a set of heads and I'll fab a PT88 kit (hopefully by the fall).
Ehhh, 550 to the wheels might get a low boosted KB car (14 lbs or so) but it would be real close. Pullied/Ported Eaton cars will dyno just north of 500 without the spray. 100 shot on top of that will put them better than 19lbs KB cars with a "kill" tune. Average boosted KB cars (19 lbs) will put down anywhere from 580-620 depending on the tune.

Figure you're going to need to be able to trap at least 130 to "kill" them. Otherwise you need to set your car up hook and don't go from a roll. Even then those cars hook unusually well.
Old Mar 27, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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Talking

I come back months later and even the Chebbie lovers are pissing and moaning at each other? WTF is up with you?

You have the new 2010 CamaroHO. It's the holy grail

Ok back to the scheduled program.....
Old Mar 27, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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Ehhh, 550 to the wheels might get a low boosted KB car (14 lbs or so) but it would be real close. Pullied/Ported Eaton cars will dyno just north of 500 without the spray. 100 shot on top of that will put them better than 19lbs KB cars with a "kill" tune. Average boosted KB cars (19 lbs) will put down anywhere from 580-620 depending on the tune.

Figure you're going to need to be able to trap at least 130 to "kill" them. Otherwise you need to set your car up hook and don't go from a roll. Even then those cars hook unusually well.
From my experience cobras need ~40-50rwhp more than fbdoies to run the same mph. I would think a 550rwhp fbody should be pretty even with a 590-600rwhp cobra (19psi KB or 100 shot eaton car).
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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My experience says a little differently but in all honesty I really do hope that you lay some smack down on those guys. It kinda sucks that my circle of friends all have Termi's. However is does give me insight to know what it takes beat 'em. Generally, for the 19 lbs KB or sprayed Eaton car, the AVERAGE times @ the track are 10.80's @ 128. Shoot for better than that I'd say you've got a shot.

Regardless, happy hunting and when you do get that kill let us know so I can relay the info. appropriately.
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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I hear ya, thanks for the info. Hopefully the stock heads/cast manifolds don't hurt me too much. I had a customer run 10.8 @ 128mph with a T76 @ 11psi with stock LT1 top end (stock heads/cam/intake). We'll see... I got to get this thing to the dyno.
Old Mar 29, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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Smokem if ya got em...kills coming soon for the mustangs near you.



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