I dont care what you ran , unless that LS1 is a POS there is no damn way . He should be runing mid to low 12's . Does your car scare them away or something ? Is it scary ? I just dont buy it man . if a 13.1 car beat me like that id be one pissed pup .

 

Also the race was from a roll his best time 1/4 mile is like 12.6 or 12.5... this was a street race from a roll , again dead stop a diff story but from roll i beat him and was pulling

 

haha U dont think a lt1 is spose to break out of the 14's ?
U run mid 13's and u would be a pissed pup if a 13.1 car beat u?
wtf am i spose to slow down let u catch up?

 

Read the sig , My LT1 will run 12's right now , as it sits . I whoop that cars *** every race . My times are because my clutch is wasted . You are prety much saying that you are waxing LS1's with the same mods . BS...like I said . if you raced an LS1 with the same mods , there is no way you would win . Not going to happen . Like I said , they easily run low 12's with the mods you described . If you are waxing them , then you got something up your sleeve . Im not going to argue anymore , but im sure others see something wrong with this story . I have owned 2 LT1's and 1 LS1 and drove a multitude of both . Mod for Mod LS1's wax LT's . End of story . and that is a fact . Unless your LT1 is beter then any other LT1 ever made . Im not trying to be a jerk but your trying to say you beat a car that logicaly has way More HP with bigger stall and the same mods pretty much .

 

well im not trying to be one either , but im not making this up man he really lost alot of his topend with the 3700 2.6str stall its a 98 btw... what part of ky are u from ? im really close i know ls1 cars are fast I was completly killed by a cammed ls1 back in the summer lol .... .. but were both going to the Dyno soon and ill post both cars results

 

His 3700 stall isn't going to kill his top end. Most aftermarket converters are 94% effiency rated or better these days. So the HP loss will be very minimal on a bolt-on car and maybe he lost 1 mph in his trap but some people actually gain a MPH after a 3500 stall goes in so no guarantees that he lost anything.

Bottom line is you both have a good stall TC for your respective engines and both similair bolt-ons. But his engine has 40ish RWHP more then yours so the LS1 should win unless he had some issues we are not aware of. But again this race was a two second 2nd gear acceleration not a real race.

Robb was merely trying to point out the facts because the numbers don't lie. His car should be faster then yours if there is no mechanical or tuning issues.

 

hmm.. they raced to 80mph. that is no where near "top-end". while i don't doubt that one might loose a bit of effeciency with a 2.6 str, especially a poorly designed one, i don't see it affecting a 50-80 mph roll that much. hell, i ran SLeeper94Z's times with the stock tc, 3.23s and very minor mods. AND trap a good deal higher, to boot.

so, by the logic of some in this tread, a higher stall is gonna slow me down, not speed me up. unless that t/a's 3700 rpm stall was designed and built by grandpa walton, something is up. perhaps on a quick 50-80 mph blast, the person that gets the jump is gonna win. (shrugs)

 

I don't care about the race so much, however common sense would lead me to believe that since a LS1 is faster stock for stock than a LT1, that a equally modded LT1/LS1 race would be in the LS1s favor. But anything can happen on the street...

As for the open exhaust argument, it's a long known fact to anyone knowledgable in cars/engines, that a near stock motor with a sane stock CR is not going to gain anything by have ing "open" exhaust. In most cases it will indeed hurt you. You WANT some backpressure on a mostly stock motor. I have experienced this first hand personally, and have seen it at the track many times. The doesn't just go for "old school" SBCs either, same applies to LT1/LS1s...




Jon

 

SLeeper94Z.....dude nice kills...if you haven't noticed the LS1 is the GREATEST ENGINE IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD!!! NOTHING CAN BEAT IT! Heck I'd be willing to bet that a 02 Z28 with a lid might hang with a Viper..... ........

I love this board but somtimes I think the site should change it's name to LS1Camaroz28.com.....

So he beat a T/A on a street race....a quick one at that.....if you hose the start you need a TREMENDOUS amount of power to make it up mabe the T/A was slow on the get go....

Back when my Iroc ran 14.0's at 100mph I raced my buds SC'd '89 Mustang with heads and cam.....he spun pretty good on the start and I beat him on the light....guess what I won...he went FLYING by right after the finsih line but it took him a full 1/4 mile to catch me......

LS1 guys need to get off thier high chair and stop freaking crying like babies when they read that thier "super car" got beat......geez....this is why I love the 3rd gen......everyone knows thier slow .......especially LS1 guys....

 

I got news for you smart *** , if I was driving my LT1 and never bought the LS1 I would still be calling BS . So your stupid comments dont mean a thing . Facts are facts . FACT :LS1's come stock with way more hp . FACT: do one thing to an LT1 then do the same to an LS1 and the LS1 will come out on top . Stock LS1's are dynoing 300 to the wheels as to where LT1's " wich are great engines " are dynoing 235-270 . Thats thirty HP minimum diffrence . Im a realist and I can accept reality . Can you ?
You talking about hosing at start , her said from a roll . Ok , if you are goofy enough to beleive that an superior engine running the same mods as an inferior engine Lost the race , then good for you . If you drove plenty of either you would know its just not going to happen .
I have owned 2 LT's and now My LS1 and they are different beast completely . I have beat many Bolt on LT1's already with my car . I ran a guy@the track in an LT1 camaro with a stall and headers and I beat him . He ran a 13.6 .. Unless there is something else done to his car I just cant beleive it . It does not make logical sense .PERIOD ! The LS1 he described is a low 12 second car easy . his is mid to high 12's , maybe .

 

I live in northern , BTW , Im not trying to be a jerk man , its just I drive so many different of each and I have seen enar stock LS1's running mid 12's . Its just hard to grasp . If you live near here you shoudl come to edgewater saturday . Im gonna run my car one more time before I put in a clutch that dont slip . Im going to see if I can get it to run a 13.2 on street tires with my crappy clutch . I could have easily broke the 13.5 but the slave cylinder is bad and the car wont go into 3rd gear when Im runnning it hard . (I got to fight it to get it in . PLus my sixties are HORRIBLE . i went easy on it so I didnt get the clutch hot . Im not trying to knock LT1's , the one in sig is nearly stock and easily ran a 13.2 .No personal foul intended .

 

OK, cool man from northern also, where exactly is Edgewater? My buddys have told me about it just never been.I'm pretty familiar
with the 1/8th mile tracks in northern Ky ... I was at a 8th mile track everyweek lol last season... is edgewater close to Clay City ?

 

Robb4964....

Thank you for showing me the light....your right I have no experience with LT-1 or LS-1 cars as I'm sure you already knew.....my family doesn't own any and niether do my friends....in fact I've never been to the strip and seen any of them run.......there is absolutly no way he could have beatn the T/A....I now bow down to the mighty LS-1

.....god I love LS-1 guys........



350Z

 

are you intentionally trying to offend every ls1 owner on this board??

 

I love all the F-body's....I know that the LS1 is one of the most powerful engines ever put onto these cars....the most powerful as far as the later model's go. Yes they are really fast right off the showroom floor...

BUT....

Seems like every post I read about someone beating one a clan of LS1 guys call BS...."oh no way"..."we run 10's stock"....etc...

These guys don't think that under the right conditions a mild bolt on LT1 can't beat a mild bolt on LS1?? I have beaten many cars that are faster than me by using a little bit of tactics....you know find your cars strong point and your opponents weak spot and maximize your advantage......example is......I'm not gonna challenge a modded STI to race from a dead stop to 60mph......

I'm not kidding that the LS1 is a killer engine....yes more power than the LT1 and L98 stock....power is not everything in a race.

I'm not trying to **** off anyone its this unbeatable attitude that makes some LS1 guys sh!tty to hang around with.....and 10X as fun to beat.

.....and no I don't have a fast car.



350Z