Since the demise of the F body SLP had to make a living so they changed their platform. They are now also a Ford representative in the aftermarket.

Also Good kill to Sleeper94Z.
Dont let opinions get you upset. Some people are blind to the fact that the LT1 can be an LS1 destroyer with mods.

Mike

 

Wow, you learn something new everyday, who would've thought? Are they selling well?

 

Absolutely true that LT1's can destroy LS1's with the right mods. The LT1 motor has lots of potential but look at this particular setup. Both LS1 and LT1 have stock internals. Both have LT headers, cutouts, TB, Lid or FIPK, A4's, Torque converters, ect.

They basically looked almost identical mod for mod with the exception of 3.73 gears vs 3.23 gears. Now with all that in mind we are supposed to believe a Bolt-on LT1 walked a bolt-on LS1 in a lightning fast 50-80 mph race?

Something is off here. Maybe the LS1 driver didn't hit it right away and the race didn't go long enough (obviously) for him to play catch-up. Maybe the LS1 has some tuning issues. I mean absolutely no offense whatsoever but by reading his mods vs LT1's mods I'd expect him to pull on the LT1 at a 50 mph punch (not walk just pull). If they raced from 50-130 I would fully expect him to pull the LT1 by a car length or two. After the cam goes in and gets tuned I would expect the LT1 to pull his buddys LS1 by a few cars.

BTW I in no way endorse or condone street racing. I srongly urge all contests be held on a track of some form. I would not and have not raced anyone on the street. But I admit some of these stories and debates can be entertaining so I like to read the kill section from time to time.

Plus someone has to keep Steve Y out of trouble



J/K

 

I dunno what the fastest bolt-on LT1 runs, but we've got a guy here with a '97 Trans Am that has run 12.034 @112 with just bolt-ons


-Mike

 

WOW! I'd love to see that setup. He's gotta have some seriously sweet 60' times to run that deep in the 12's without any internal work or N20.

Is he M6 or A4?

 

Interesting observation D.
You make a valid point. I like it when people debate points with grown up persona.
The only rebutle to your argument I can think of is that on the street strange things can happen. Other than that , your figures add up.

Mike

 

Very possible.
The way this would be accomplished is with a huge *** torque converter in an automatic. He is probably 60 footing the hell out of that car

 

I the fastest bolt-on only NA LT1 is SAR2K on this board. 11.9s. He now has heads/cam though.

 

 

sleeper94z, i am not ignorant, but experienced. i have long tubes on my LT1 and i beat stock-lightly modded LS1s, however, i have my exhaust hooked up and have back pressure, you stated you were racing with open headers, i said open Long tubes on an lt1 will be in the 14's, not a properly set up lt1 with exhaust hooked up to it, long tube headers support like 7-8-900 hp, please dont tell me the ~300-350 hp your lt1 puts out is enough to make backpressure in an open 1 3/4inch long tube primary. a stock lt1 revving to 5700 will make less power with open long tubes, and it definatly wont have any instant torque.

 

He's got an A4. I believe his setup includes long tube headers, no cats, an x-pipe exhaust, a Mez water pump, Yank 3000 stall converter, some suspension mods, 3.73 gears, and weight reduction (to the tune of a race weight around 3350).

His 60' time on the run was 1.63


-Mike

 

drivensidewayz
I have Hooker LTs and purple horny header mufflers that have been shortened, about as close to open as your gonna get and still have a muffler.
I am sure my hornies are not given me any backpressure.......so explain to me why my car got faster with them.
according to you I should have slowed down to 14.5s not the 13.4s I am running now at 104 mph.
My motor has 138k on it and is bone stock internally.

If I were you I would seriously consider sitting back and reading some of these posts on here so you quit sounding stupid.

 

There is no way you beat that LS1 . with his mods he should be waxing you . I have a friend with an LS1 that ran a 12.7 with just Free ram air and ported MAF ends /w lid . Thats it . He geared it , and tuned it , and now runs a 13.4 , w/a 1.9 60 . He was spinning . . No headers , no cutout , no stall . ANd on the highway , you wo9uld not have pulled him . Even if you took him some off the line " wich I dought "

 

The LS1 car with those mods should be pulling an easy 12.0-12.5
Mine is stock , I would galdly race you , and happily wax you . From a roll or whatever .
Once again , BS .

 

hey I ran a 13.1 consistent before the headers i have beaten 5 ls1 cars on the street , also I ran the 13.1 at CLAY CITY
Also u run a 13.5 I run a 13.1 , I already won thats before the headers.... do u know how much a high stall hurts an a4 ls1? do u know what a stall converter is? I will get the guy with the LS1 to post on here You gonna call him a liar too ? he will verify it ,
I was almost in the 12's without the headers, thats still not ls1 power, wake up man do a little research before u throw a flag