So what cam would you suggest he get and still be able to pass emmisions. I only ask cause I'm also looking to get a cam and pass emmisions too.

 

Depends on what kind of emisions test you have to pass. If it is just a OBII test any cam will be fine. If its a sniffer I couldnt tell you because ive never even seen a sniffer machine much less owned a car that had to have it. I am a licensed North Carolina Inspector and I know about our laws but we dont have sniffers anymore, and i wasnt licensed then.

 

you must have had a ****y tune.....ahahahah

 

le1 emissions cam

 

Just the OBDII test for me. Thanks for the reponse man. I just thought that it was harder to pass with a bigger cam. I was looking to get a tune from PCMForless. If said tuner can get me to pass emissions with a bigger cam than I will be seriously considering it. What cam would you suggest? On stock heads that is. Thanks

 

Cool, I'll look into that cam, Thanks

 

ok thanks for all the responses guys...how much money will i have to save for the cam install...from beginnin to end including tuning...so i know how many hours to put in lol if anyone can give me a parts list and pricing so that i dont get screwed on incorrect parts would be a big help..thanks!
Vince

 

2k will cover everything.

Call up Lloyd man... he'll set you up with what you need/want. He won't try and squeeze cash out of you. He'll only recommend the LE cams if he think you can benefit the most from them.

972-617-5671
Give him a call

 

My car ran 13.5 @ 103 2.1 60' dead stock on street tires (96 SS m6).
It made 275 rwhp (@5200 rpm) & 310 tq.

With the hot cam I went 12.9 @ 110 2.1 60' (same set up on street tires)
With LT's it made 345 RWHP (@ 6200 RPM) & 346 tq.

+70 RWHP is alot more than an air foil can get you.

Price wise
1) Hot cam kit about $500
2) Pcm4less mail order was $100 (years ago I don't know if the $ changed).
3) LT hedders, new or used depends on your taste and budget. Used =$400

So for about 1K you can get a decent set up. Most people blow 1k on worthless mods (electric water pump, air foil, timing chains, throttle bodies, injectors, and so on.) Ask Bret how much a cam kit costs (cam, rockers, springs, retainers), it's probably going to be more than $500. Also, by the time it's worth it to buy all that stuff you would be a fool to put it on stock castings. If you decided to port the heads at a later date, you would have to buy the cam, springs, retainers, locks ect... again. The Hot cam kit on (based on $$$) can be replaced with out too much financial loss.

DISCLAIMER: The above mentioned items are only considered worthless when a car is only lightly modded or cammed. Major head work in conjunction with agressive cams will require most of the above mentioned items be upgraded.

Don't be fooled by the inital price of a cam and head kit. There are quite a few supporting mods and more time consuming procedures required to make it work just right (see disclaimer), not to mention an extended time horizon for the project. Before you know it you will be dangerously close to 4K and the car will be radically differant from what you thought you wanted.

Finally, Yes it lopes.

The Dyno:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...3571cedcd4.htm

The Pass:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/c...7ee75718d5.htm

 

listen to the lope i get!! hotcam kit with hooker headers.


http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....2-DB01B851220B

 

Nice vid.

 

So what makes a person an idiot with a CC306? I'm planning on doing that cam in the next month or 2.

 

The CC306 is too big for stock LT1 head flows. Even the Hotcam benefits from from some mild short side radius work on LT4 heads. The Hotcam is a good match with mildly ported LT4 heads to the tune of about 370RWHP (M6, Dynojet, shorties, stock everything else). The Hotcam still peaks at about 6400rpm and you need to spin it to ~6800rpm to take advantage of it. It still provides terrific torque way down low as well which means "more area under the curve".

The CC306 on stock heads can't match it. It'll be flat down low and you won't flow enough up top to take advantage of the more aggressive lobe. It's a good cam. Just not on stock heads.

 

Hmm thats wierd because I've read on this site time and time again that the CC306 provides lots of power down low (1K-3K) with a power increase over stock and then once you get up to 3500+ it pulls 'forever'. Not to mention I see lots of guys trapping 110+mph on stockheads with this cam versus alot of guys trapping 106-110mph with the hotcam. I'm not bashing the hotcam it just seems like there is alot of misguided info out there over these larger ones

Do a search, Atljar and xxsaint69xx comes to mind. One was running the 306 the other was running the 847 with excellent results. If I remember correctly both said they increased power over stock down low where everyone is worried about loosing it, then gaining tons up top where you race

 

cc306 is fine, however it is dated. an XE 230/236 would be better my old car had an XE 224/230 and it moved pretty well. pulled a couple 306 cars