I just had a chick tell me I have the scedual of a bartender. LOL I do sleep, but I have a late day. Leave work at like 8:00pm or so.

Why you still on?

 

I'm out to sea....

 

I wasn't trying to tell you your time isn't worth it. Hell, I don't blame you. I charge 3000 if I could find someone to buy it. I always said that if I invented a bucket of sh*t, then I'd sell it for 1 million dollars, because somewhere, someone out there has way too much money and will buy my bucket of sh*t, but because he can. Bragging rights it guess......ha ha, I have a bucket of sh*t and you don't while I'm smiling rich and unbloated.

Anyway, back to the post.

I'm not trying to take away from you or anything, I was just saying that I could make ME an intake out of those things, and save me BOOKOS of money. I wasn't trying to steal your info, I just thought someone out there had done this and was helping everyone else figure out the best way to do it and it was a DIY project.

I can make my own, I just didn't want to put stuff together and make something that wasn't as good as it could be because of lack of knowledge.


I hope you all the success in the world! I just want to make myself a good, cheap intake so I can look at it and smile, then kick some a$$ with it.

D Moss

 

Tis the reason why we pay Bret the Big bucks.. We don't have the knowledge! And he Does...

 

I was just going to say that. BTW what are you out to sea on?

I understand dry flow intakes like this much better than wet flow carb ones. I know what I want there but the head guys have a much better idea of what is going on there than I do in terms of atomization and wet flow, the EFI stuff is much more fun for me.

Right now I am looking up fuel line adaptor fittings to get the intake to hook up to the stock lines. Something else to make it plug in and easy.

Bret

 

Bret,
Sent ya some mail..

 

Some of us don't have the big bucks, and I thought that this was what forums was for, to share knowledge and help others make their cars faster, not to tell everyone else that I the best intake, and you don't, but I'll sell you one for the same price you can buy a rebuilt longblock for.

I've noticed this alot around here, when it comes to getting really fast, everyone wants to bash someone else and tell them that what they have is too much for them, but yet the person telling the first person what is too big is what they are running or something bigger.

I know I'm about to get burned by a lot of quotes, so here goes. I've already figured out that the questions that I have asked will not be answered. Or I guess they have, just with "I won't tell you, and whatever you come up with wont work because you dont know what you are doing. or if it does, you better have all kinds of numbers to back it up, or mine is better.

D Moss

 

I tell you what. I wouldn't be scared off by an $1800 price tag. Not by any means.

If Bret's intake performs like estimated (and why wouldn't it), then you're looking at sizeable gains on a stock motor even. Add one of these intakes on to a nice solid 355, a good set of LT1 ported castings, and a custom HR cam (couple of names come to mind), and suddenly you could be pushing what was once thought the threshold of a Head/Cam LT1.

I'm keeping an eye on this. I may give your intake a shot once I see some numbers and a couple running units.

 

You're right, that is what this forum is for but you have to take a step back and look at the big picture. On one level we have the hobby..... you and I fall into this category. But for Bret this is his job.

I personally frequent and use to moderate at a message board for computer programmers. I cannot count the number of times people stole ideas, reverse engineered programs, etc for profit. For some people, this wasn't a problem... they had planned to go open source anyway, but for others, losing an original idea and the opportunity for profit from countless hours of hard work was quite devestating.
People are opportunist and you have to be careful just how much information you give out. So from that perspective I can understand why a bit of secrecy is necessary in the project stage. Again, we're talking about someones livelyhood here.... not just a hobby for them.

Yes, don't run what I run cause I don't want you to be as fast as me.

I don't really see as much of that on this board as I do on the hardcore race boards but for the most part, people are laying their combinations on the line for everyone to see.
Just don't put too much faith in what you see. The really fast cars here are not running parts that you can pick up and bolt on from the local NAPA. Custom cams, custom machine work, ported heads..... an engine is more than the sum of it's parts.

Even if you went out and bought the exact same components, your chances of arriving at the same numbers are thin once you factor in custom cams, heads and the like.

If you can do the work yourself then I wish you the best. When you get it together post up some results because people are always eager to listen.

Good luck.

-Mindgame

 

Thanks mindgame,....

a good post indeed.

D Moss

 

Tim,
Either of those intakes would be a winner as I see it. I would opt for the Vic Super on a lighter car with lots of gear, lots of rpm and might go for the Vic on a heavier car.

IMO, even a converted Edelbrock Torker would be a step in the right direction vs the stock intake.

Have you heard any word on the availiability of these intakes? Seems that last I heard they still weren't ready for distribution.... but that was about 6 months ago.

If you can find a good deal on a Vic, Super Vic, Team G, Dart or HV1000, you might want to do some shopping to compare Ede's price to conversion price from an outfit like Force Fuel Injection. I doubt you can beat Edelbrock with their manufacturing capabilities but who knows.....

Bret,
I should have posted the complete part number.... easy to remember the first (24502)...

The 24502481 (481) is GM's small port, small plenum intake for heavy drag car, road race, short track, etc.

The 24502487 (487) is their mod intake, in that it is a meaty casting and has the rear cooling option.

There's also an 053 intake (has a different prefix PN) but it's the large plenum/runner intake for the lighter, higher rpm cars.

edit for link:

http://www.sdpc2000.com/cart.asp?act...tart&catid=737

-Mindgame

 

This may have sort of been avoided out of sheer anticipation for the finished product....but what about tuning?

Is this something that pcmforless or madwolf would need to get a call about too? The installation seems to be a simple swap, nuts-n-bolts type of thing, but what about how the pcm will regard this new design? Just curious...

Also - Bret any news on my buddies 383? I hear the head choice is now trickflow? Either way I am sure it will be a nasty setup

 

WEll Said M.G..

 

More airflow will require more fuel....unless you were running fat to begin with. Either way, expect to have to at least tweek the fuel tables at the upper registers.

 

Duh, never even looked at intakes and that's what we are talking about. I was wondering about the head castings on the 355.

Bret