A serious question from a Mustang Guy
Originally posted by CANTONRACER
A 99+ GT can give a stock LT1 a good run if not beat the LT1 anyday of the week.
This guy comes and asks a question and all I am reading for the most part is bs, excuses and estimates.
A 99+ GT can give a stock LT1 a good run if not beat the LT1 anyday of the week.
This guy comes and asks a question and all I am reading for the most part is bs, excuses and estimates.
Trey if you're talking factory power, the LS1 is definately faster but you're gonna pay more money for one as well. The LS1 is a better motor though.
Originally posted by revtime
I aint flamin ya but it has been my expierence that the 99+ can,t hang with a slighltly modded LT1 and my car even beat the crap out of a friends 96 Cobra, he got so fed up he sold the car. I can respect your loyalty to Ford and all but if you wanna go fast get a Camaro.
I aint flamin ya but it has been my expierence that the 99+ can,t hang with a slighltly modded LT1 and my car even beat the crap out of a friends 96 Cobra, he got so fed up he sold the car. I can respect your loyalty to Ford and all but if you wanna go fast get a Camaro.
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I was going low 14's at around 97mph stock. I was running poor gas and didn't have the tires inflated properly but still they should run low 14's to high 13's. 99+ Stang would be a nice run and could take an LT1 Z just as easy as the Z could take the Stang. It would be a driver's race between the 2.
Revtime I'd be leary about telling people you'll beat the crap out of a cobra. Bone stock if the guy can drive they'll run 13.6s to 13.8's at 103 or 104 mph. You put in some gears free up the exhaust a bit and holy crap those things are bad ***.
Originally posted by IrocManiac
The LS1 is a better motor though.
The LS1 is a better motor though.
The times in the signiture are from the local track. I think they are low compared to what others have done, but HERE the average LT1 on street tires runs in the 14.3~14.6 range and the average LS1 on street tires runs in the low 14~high 13 range stock at the track here.
So I think the track is slow for guys with street tires.
BTW: Don't get mad if there is a bit of Mustang "bashing". I think that they are both great cars and the Stang has a bad *** after market, and alot of great options we aren't offered, like easy engine swaps, etc. I respect the Stang and they are defiantly nice cars.
I always thought a 94~95 GT with a mean 351 would be "FUN"!
Later, and stay safe
So I think the track is slow for guys with street tires.
BTW: Don't get mad if there is a bit of Mustang "bashing". I think that they are both great cars and the Stang has a bad *** after market, and alot of great options we aren't offered, like easy engine swaps, etc. I respect the Stang and they are defiantly nice cars.
I always thought a 94~95 GT with a mean 351 would be "FUN"!
Later, and stay safe
Originally posted by Brettinator
Well now that's a loaded statement. I agree better in respect to more power stock, but truth is they do have problems, case in point, you cannot run a quart low on oil racing an LS1 without throwing a main bearing, very common problem vs an LT1 which can handle it, a few other engine issues with them related to power adders and engine longevity compared to the LT1. Of course there are opinions and I'm basing mine on what I've researched on various sites. The LT1 is a great motor to buildup, it's a beast, the OPTI issues are easy enough to overcome. Personally I think the LS1 will be replaced by a more refined version, maybe the LS6 but they have even better plans in the works.
Well now that's a loaded statement. I agree better in respect to more power stock, but truth is they do have problems, case in point, you cannot run a quart low on oil racing an LS1 without throwing a main bearing, very common problem vs an LT1 which can handle it, a few other engine issues with them related to power adders and engine longevity compared to the LT1. Of course there are opinions and I'm basing mine on what I've researched on various sites. The LT1 is a great motor to buildup, it's a beast, the OPTI issues are easy enough to overcome. Personally I think the LS1 will be replaced by a more refined version, maybe the LS6 but they have even better plans in the works.
the LS1 may be more likely to burn a quart of oil, but hey, oil is cheap
Because of weather, location, environmental variables, vehicle condition, driving abilities, all you can reasonably obtain are estimates from which to compare. My earlier posted performance was from DelMar Delaware at the NHRA Division 1 Bracket Finals in 1998. It was the first time I had the car on a full 1/4 mile track.
hell in the 1/8 I could get most close-to-stock 5.0s in auto or stick trim with my 4.3L V-6 2 door blazer with a days worth of mods done like muffler, no cat, coil,intake, plugs, wires, thermostat and chip. I pissed a few of them off once I popped the hood. Mainly it was all out the hole cutting 1.8 short times with the slips to prove it. I even took a few all the way to the end in the 1/4. it ran a 15.7 at 89 in that trim and then I added 3.73 gears, shift improver, MSD 6A, headers, and other stuff.
When i had it the 4.6s were just coming out and they could just hang it up unless it was spraying
When i had it the 4.6s were just coming out and they could just hang it up unless it was spraying
Originally posted by Brettinator
Well now that's a loaded statement. I agree better in respect to more power stock, but truth is they do have problems, case in point, you cannot run a quart low on oil racing an LS1 without throwing a main bearing, very common problem vs an LT1 which can handle it, a few other engine issues with them related to power adders and engine longevity compared to the LT1. Of course there are opinions and I'm basing mine on what I've researched on various sites. The LT1 is a great motor to buildup, it's a beast, the OPTI issues are easy enough to overcome. Personally I think the LS1 will be replaced by a more refined version, maybe the LS6 but they have even better plans in the works.
Well now that's a loaded statement. I agree better in respect to more power stock, but truth is they do have problems, case in point, you cannot run a quart low on oil racing an LS1 without throwing a main bearing, very common problem vs an LT1 which can handle it, a few other engine issues with them related to power adders and engine longevity compared to the LT1. Of course there are opinions and I'm basing mine on what I've researched on various sites. The LT1 is a great motor to buildup, it's a beast, the OPTI issues are easy enough to overcome. Personally I think the LS1 will be replaced by a more refined version, maybe the LS6 but they have even better plans in the works.


