LE2 / BRE Dyno numbers , inside
Re: LE2 / BRE Dyno numbers , inside
I am a Fan of the 1.7 Scorpian's, I have them on my Bolt-on car. In my opinion more people should use the 1.7 RR's. I would think his cam is similiar to a 1.5 BRE cam but the valvetrain is built in mind with the 1.7 RR's
I would say around a high 22X cam with around a 590 Lift. I figure in the regular lift on this cam would be around .560 with the 1.7's it would be right around .590.
I like RoadTrips induction too (I have a MTI lid and LS1 front clip on my car) I think a Lid setup actually shows some pretty good gains over a Regular LT1 induction.
Between the Low duration (WHY the TQ is so High) and HIgh Lift (HP numbers almost in the 420 range) the cam with the 1.7 rr's, induction, and a 10-bolt is what is making this car make more power than what we are use to seeing with similiar setups IMHO.
AWSOME NUMBERS, I think we should see more setups like yours, I really like the TQ
I would say around a high 22X cam with around a 590 Lift. I figure in the regular lift on this cam would be around .560 with the 1.7's it would be right around .590.
I like RoadTrips induction too (I have a MTI lid and LS1 front clip on my car) I think a Lid setup actually shows some pretty good gains over a Regular LT1 induction.
Between the Low duration (WHY the TQ is so High) and HIgh Lift (HP numbers almost in the 420 range) the cam with the 1.7 rr's, induction, and a 10-bolt is what is making this car make more power than what we are use to seeing with similiar setups IMHO.
AWSOME NUMBERS, I think we should see more setups like yours, I really like the TQ
Re: LE2 / BRE Dyno numbers , inside
Guys, It was a custom cam to work with Brady's rocker arms. It's actually pretty close in size to a LE2 cam. Brady came to me directly for his bolt on only car and used the same cam with his LE2 heads when he wanted to go that route.
The 1.7's were a challenge due to the faster valve acceleration, higher inertia rocker arms and the lobes I had to run in this application. I still think there is a little more in the valvetrain here in terms of pushrods. The 1.6 Pro Mags that are normally used in Lloyds kit are more stable to 6500rpm and that shows in the dyno charts.
First thing I thought when he told me it was 42* total timing was that there is still power in it as well there too.
Overall it's very impressive, both the TQ and HP there is just some little things to try here and there to get even more out of this puppy. Hell he started off at 370rwtq and 400rwhp and is gaining a little bit here and there everytime.
Bret
The 1.7's were a challenge due to the faster valve acceleration, higher inertia rocker arms and the lobes I had to run in this application. I still think there is a little more in the valvetrain here in terms of pushrods. The 1.6 Pro Mags that are normally used in Lloyds kit are more stable to 6500rpm and that shows in the dyno charts.
First thing I thought when he told me it was 42* total timing was that there is still power in it as well there too.
Overall it's very impressive, both the TQ and HP there is just some little things to try here and there to get even more out of this puppy. Hell he started off at 370rwtq and 400rwhp and is gaining a little bit here and there everytime.
Bret
Re: LE2 / BRE Dyno numbers , inside
If i get my pcm back from Andrew, look for another dyno update on Thursday. This time with tune.
Mail order tune was from pcmforless
LT4POWR-- 2.5 TRUE DUALS dumped before the axels
Does everyone see why matched setups with every supporting mod makes the setup?? The only thing i havn't done is a ported intake, but then i would have been hard to compare to other similar setups. The intake is getting shipped off after Thursdays dyno.
Mail order tune was from pcmforless
LT4POWR-- 2.5 TRUE DUALS dumped before the axels
Does everyone see why matched setups with every supporting mod makes the setup?? The only thing i havn't done is a ported intake, but then i would have been hard to compare to other similar setups. The intake is getting shipped off after Thursdays dyno.
Re: LE2 / BRE Dyno numbers , inside
Congrats roadtrip. 
BTW, I love the simplicity of your car. The color scheme is right-on too. Nice job!
Can't wait to see the tq once you get the timing nailed down. It'll improve!
-Mindgame
BTW, I love the simplicity of your car. The color scheme is right-on too. Nice job!

Can't wait to see the tq once you get the timing nailed down. It'll improve!
-Mindgame
Re: LE2 / BRE Dyno numbers , inside
NO TRACK TIMES SHUTS EVERYONES MOUTH ! A DYNO QUEEN IS NOT ALWAYS A TRACK QUEEN !
Originally Posted by RealQuick
Excellent. People can dispute who has accurate flow #'s nd wo doesnt, but showing the hp/tq shuts everyones mouths! Nice job Lloyd, Bret and roadtrip.
Re: LE2 / BRE Dyno numbers , inside
Originally Posted by red96z
NO TRACK TIMES SHUTS EVERYONES MOUTH ! A DYNO QUEEN IS NOT ALWAYS A TRACK QUEEN !
Motor is finished, saving for tires and a 12 bolt
Re: LE2 / BRE Dyno numbers , inside
Great numbers! Way to go Bret,Loyd and roadtrip120! Why do some people always get stuck in a rut thinking that our cars are only good if they run on a drag strip. You need to open up and realize that these 4th Gen F bodies can be road rockets too. If your car is built mainly for drag racing ( no front sway bar , light front springs and shocks,and thin front tires) ,then it is more dangerous if street driven. I prefer a car set up for great handling and braking. This type of car is way more fun and safer on the street. Yea, go ahead and rat race me (60-130)on the Interstate. Just don't try and follow me at 120+ through a turn with your hot drag car. To each his own.
Re: LE2 / BRE Dyno numbers , inside
Originally Posted by red96z
NO TRACK TIMES SHUTS EVERYONES MOUTH ! A DYNO QUEEN IS NOT ALWAYS A TRACK QUEEN !
Re: LE2 / BRE Dyno numbers , inside
im just saying i have seen cars dyno high and not run the times it should cause its missing power down low ! lets see what it does at the track ???
Originally Posted by RealQuick
Dyno numbers prove that the LE setups work, track times only show that someone can set their car up suspension wise. We know the powerband, peakhp/tq and flatness of tq curve by dyno sheets...therefor dyno numbers shut people up too 

Re: LE2 / BRE Dyno numbers , inside
Originally Posted by red96z
im just saying i have seen cars dyno high and not run the times it should cause its missing power down low ! lets see what it does at the track ???
If a car dosnt have sack down low, it shows on the dyno too...thats all
His tq cuve is flat as ****!
Re: LE2 / BRE Dyno numbers , inside
awesome ! cant wait too see what it does ! its like my car it put down 410 through an auto ....cant wait to see what it turns !
Originally Posted by RealQuick
I understand what you are saying
If a car dosnt have sack down low, it shows on the dyno too...thats all
His tq cuve is flat as ****!
If a car dosnt have sack down low, it shows on the dyno too...thats all
His tq cuve is flat as ****!


) by some tq. Are those SAE #s, through full exhuast or cutout?