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Fuel filter

Old Sep 23, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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Fuel filter

Any suggestions for a fuel filter. I'm guessing they don't make a high performance one. Also, is it the canister thing located just forward of the rear subframe?
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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Pick up a Fram.
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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Based on the reports/tests I have seen regarding the extremely poor construction quality of the FRAM oil filters, and my own problems with them, I wouldn't use any FRAM product on my car. Fuel filter doesn't seem to be a critical choice though. I remember buying a Purolator replacement at the local parts store.

And yes, its hung on the side of the rear subframe, right in front of the rear axle.
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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AC Delco
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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Fram is fine... all I have ever used.. Never once a problem... Guess some people just have a special thing...
Old Sep 23, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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I guess you haven't visited the website that showed how they were assembled using knotted strings, and carboard end caps. And maybe you missed the letter from the FRAM engineer who let the cat out of the bag, and caused Allied-Signal to have the website shut down until the engineer's letter was removed.....

Old Sep 23, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by Injuneer
I guess you haven't visited the website that showed how they were assembled using knotted strings, and carboard end caps. And maybe you missed the letter from the FRAM engineer who let the cat out of the bag, and caused Allied-Signal to have the website shut down until the engineer's letter was removed.....

Wow, must of had my head stuck in the sand. That is crazy... Guess I should swear off Fram. So whos the best then? Delco?
Old Sep 24, 2003 | 07:17 AM
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Well until my car or a personal friend of mine's or family member's car get's screwed from a fram product. I'll keep using them.... the odds are probably 1 in a million just like everything else... If they are so bad, they wouldnt still be making these things or they'd have a hell load of lawsuits etc..
Old Sep 24, 2003 | 09:53 AM
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Can someone post the link for this please..... Maybe with facts/ I can be lead from fram... whats better? Wix? Purolator?
Old Sep 24, 2003 | 12:15 PM
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Oil Filter Study


Fram Extra Guard

Years ago Fram was a quality filter manufacturer. Now their standard filter (the radioactive-orange cans) is one of the worst out there. It features cardboard end caps for the filter element that are glued in place. The rubber anti-drainback valve seals against the cardboard and frequently leaks, causing dirty oil to drain back into the pan. The bypass valves are plastic and are sometimes not molded correctly, which allows them to leak all the time. The stamped-metal threaded end is weakly constructed and it has smaller and fewer oil inlet holes, which may restrict flow. I had one of these filters fail in my previous car. The filter element collapsed and bits of filter and glue were circuilating through my system. The oil passge to the head became blocked and the head got so hot from oil starvation that it actually melted the vacuum lines connected to it as well as the wires near it.

Fram Double Guard

Another bad filter idea brought to you by your friends at Fram. The filter itself is a slightly improved design over the Fram Extra Guard, but still uses the same filter element. It has a silicone anti-drainback valve, a quality pressure releif valve, and enough inlet holes for good flow. The big problem is that they are trying to cash in on the Slick 50 craze. They impregnate the filter element with bits of Teflon like that found in Slick 50. As with Slick 50, Teflon is a solid and does not belong in an engine. It cannot get into the parts of the engine that oil can and therefore does nothing. Also, as the filter gets dirty, it ends up filtering the Teflon right out. Dupont (the manufacturer of Teflon) does not recommend Teflon for use in internal combustion engines. Please do not waste your money on this filter.
3 years ago when I first saw my stroker motor on the engine dyno, it had a FRAM on it. I told them to take it off, and they asked me why. I supplied my own AC/Delco Ultraguard Gold (no longer made). I told them about the problems I had with the FRAM's leaking, the can collapsing while trying to remove it, the threads galling on the oil filter adapter, etc. They gave me the "deer in the headlights" look, like I was crazy. I was back in the shop last week, and I supplied my own Moroso filter. They told me they realized I was right after they noticed they were having the same problems I was with the FRAM, and they had stopped using them a few months after I had warned them.
Old Sep 24, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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darnit why didnt i see this thread b4 i just changed my oil filter today!!!!!!!
Old Sep 24, 2003 | 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by Injuneer
Oil Filter Study




3 years ago when I first saw my stroker motor on the engine dyno, it had a FRAM on it. I told them to take it off, and they asked me why. I supplied my own AC/Delco Ultraguard Gold (no longer made). I told them about the problems I had with the FRAM's leaking, the can collapsing while trying to remove it, the threads galling on the oil filter adapter, etc. They gave me the "deer in the headlights" look, like I was crazy. I was back in the shop last week, and I supplied my own Moroso filter. They told me they realized I was right after they noticed they were having the same problems I was with the FRAM, and they had stopped using them a few months after I had warned them.
When my previous engine bombed out, I had a Fram on it. It wasn't 100% responsible for the damage done, but I'm sure it contributed somewhat. When we pulled the filter off and cut it open, the paper filter element had collapsed and had detached from the cardboard ends. The only thing keeping the filter element in place was the cheap piece of string tied around it. It sure didn't look like it was doing much filtering considering the oil could just go right around the filter element.

I've been sticking with the cheapie Pep Boy filters (Purolator, maybe?) with the new engine and haven't had any issues yet. Screw Fram and their crappy product.
Old Sep 24, 2003 | 03:23 PM
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Point has been made.. I think I'm gonna start going with the K@N HP3002 or the K@N 2002
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