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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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maybe use a strap and attach the car to a jet?

thats about the only way you can do it with out n20 or charger or some sort,sorry!
Sure, that's true, if you have no clue whatsoever when it comes to cars.
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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lol....your right,what was i thinking?
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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it would take 7-8 thousand dollars to build a all motor motor(not including the rear end) to outrun that s/c cobra.

how do i know (since I "have no clue whatsoever when it comes to cars").i just built a 396,and i am very fruggle and always wait for deals on parts,it still cost $6k in parts and still more to spend.but what do i know?

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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by one eyed *****
it would take 7-8 thousand dollars to build a all motor motor(not including the rear end) to outrun that s/c cobra.

how do i know (since I "have no clue whatsoever when it comes to cars").i just built a 396,and i am very fruggle and always wait for deals on parts,it still cost $6k in parts and still more to spend.but what do i know?
Um no it woudn't, all you need is a heads/cam car to beat it.
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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right,lol,show me a car that makes that kind of power with heads and cam only ,that does not cost more than $2k.

if it were that easy we would all be running around with 400 hp.
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Come on fellas. If you want to continue your argument, do it via PM.

I'm not a moderator or anything, but I just want to help out our boy put the smack down on his buddies Cobra without having to scroll through pages of two peoples arguments.
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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Awesome, thanks. Are Lloyd Elliott heads any good?

Yeah Lloyd has some good stuff, AI is another good company to check out. I have Lloyd's stage 2 heads because I got a good deal on them, no complaints.

Like I said in my previous post, grab some N20 and show him what's up. Then save up for a good heads/cam package.
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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coolest thing would be to do a sleeper style n20 set up and hide everything,lol,he thinks it is all stock and then race him,lol.make sure to get a video and post it up on the mustang forums,lol.
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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right,lol,show me a car that makes that kind of power with heads and cam only ,that does not cost more than $2k.

if it were that easy we would all be running around with 400 hp.
There's tons of 400+rwhp heads/cam cars out there.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
There's tons of 400+rwhp heads/cam cars out there.
yeah,that all came together with less than $2k?

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Old Jul 14, 2007 | 08:12 AM
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speed demon and oneeyed ***** - take it off-line. No one want to hear your petty bickering.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Bottom line~ he has 413rwhp, that doesn't come cheap.
Your going to need the same amount to beat him and if n20 is out of the question your 2k will only take you to 340-355rwhp(cam,lts,etc). You need a new top end and a solid rearend to beat him.
Everyone has been telling you the same thing, there is no way your going to put together a 400rwhp car for 2k.
One thing I would be concerned about is you bottom end, if you have 70k 80k on it I would be afraid of a cam. Especially if your going to do heads. Good luck with your decision.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Just do the nitrous and call it good. You could easily do longtubes, CAI, DR's and a nitrous kit for less than 2 grand. Spraying a 150 shot on your car would easily put you around 400HP depending on what kit you get and such. If he is really putting down 400 RWHP then ask him for some dyno graphs or time slips.

The reason I say this is because I raced a supercharged GT (it wasn't a cobra but you still get the picture) that supposedly was putting down 435HP. I would hope my car put's down that much but I really don't know. Anyways, I raced him and raped him the whole way through the 1/4. Nitrous adds tons or torque and that is what is going to get you down the road fast. Just make sure you have some slicks so you don't sit at the line and spin while he walks away from you.
Old Jul 16, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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Thanks for all your suggestions, I've been out of town the past few days and haven't really been able to respond.

My car is totally stock, he has a CAI, magnaflow catback, 4.10's, vortech super charger, and his tires are crap. His quarter time is just above 13", he can't get traction until third gear. This scares him away from an off the line race so the best bet for racing him is rolling start on the highway.

Now that I finally see the math involved, I'm willing to go higher than 2k, probably in the 3-4k neighborhood, the only time I have to myself during the day is when I'm driving to and from IBM, about a 30 minute drive. Beating the pants off of the cobra and enjoying that drive is more important to me than refacing the cabinets in my house as per the ball and chain's request.
Old Jul 16, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by naturally aspirated
Thanks for all your suggestions, I've been out of town the past few days and haven't really been able to respond.

My car is totally stock, he has a CAI, magnaflow catback, 4.10's, vortech super charger, and his tires are crap. His quarter time is just above 13", he can't get traction until third gear. This scares him away from an off the line race so the best bet for racing him is rolling start on the highway.

Now that I finally see the math involved, I'm willing to go higher than 2k, probably in the 3-4k neighborhood, the only time I have to myself during the day is when I'm driving to and from IBM, about a 30 minute drive. Beating the pants off of the cobra and enjoying that drive is more important to me than refacing the cabinets in my house as per the ball and chain's request.
Is your car a 6-speed? It's probably going to cost more than $4k though. You'll need a good heads/cam setup which is around $2000, all the gaskets and fluids and head bolts so thats easily $300, headers, a y-pipe and catback or better yet an x-pipe, a cold air intake, a dyno tune, and if you have money left over a ported intake manifold and 58mm throttle body. And if your on the stock clutch that wont hold for long at all, so throw a clutch in there.

Basically you can add up the costs all you want on paper, but its going to end up costing more than you think.



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