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***Ai 383R long block with TFS 215 heads goes 9.6@139.9mph NA ***

Old Oct 2, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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You talking about the one in KC or the one here? I'm talking about the KC one. ur juzt jealouz cuz u gotz a rayce car, fewl!
who showed at the other one? noone....

How many 7 sec cars were there? 8's? 9's?

Go to a nmra or orsca event......screw a LT1 event.......If you want to be an internet hero with a slow *** car go for it. I sure wouldn't go to watch it. I want to see fast cars.

My car is a bracket racer, thats what I built it for.....it hasen't blown up yet so I'm happy.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mdacton
who showed at the other one? noone....

How many 7 sec cars were there? 8's? 9's?

Go to a nmra or orsca event......screw a LT1 event.......If you want to be an internet hero with a slow *** car go for it. I sure wouldn't go to watch it. I want to see fast cars.

My car is a bracket racer, thats what I built it for.....it hasen't blown up yet so I'm happy.
I am THE internet hero! The only reason why I'd go to at least the KC event is to participate w/ my slow *** car.
Don't be mad.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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I am THE internet hero! The only reason why I'd go to at least the KC event is to participate w/ my slow *** car.
Don't be mad.
you would travel half way across the country for.........

I just don't see it man. The money in fuel we can rent MIR ourselves and race each other...then tell everyone we got first and second place at the eastcoast LTx shootout.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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Why......to run all 15 people that show up?

screw that shootout it sucks.

People have no idea, there is alot more to running a car than "the heads flow xxx"

I'm not even going to get into it. most everyone is blind.

Tom knows what he is talking about, been there done that.

And the rule on stocker heads is they have to be 174cc runner now, this is a newer rule.

Great for Rick great for Ai.

If any of you think you are getting the full info from them or that set up then go ahead and buy the exact same stuff and see what happens.
I agree that car seems to be their advertising token, I'm sure there's been alot more time put into working his heads and designing that valvetrain and cam combo than what the average Joe would get for his money
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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thats stupid IMO, kind of like going to the track with no help.....what if something breaks, you flip the car, get killed etc. etc. etc.

At that speed and that type car.....stupid to drive it to the track, stupid to go alone etc.

You really think its smart to drive a 9 sec car around? Like the guy here that had the turbo one he drove to the track and wrecked it at the track on street tires.
I don't see how it would be stupid to drive a 9 or 10 sec car around. A C6 Z06 on drag radials will go 10's, do you think its stupid to drive that around?

I assume you are talking about Mighty Mouse who wrecked his car a couple years ago. It had all the safety stuff in it and he walked away from it. Are you trying to say race cars never crash?? He has built another car running low 9's and weighs 3800lbs, full interior, drag radials.

Sorry to take this off topic. I would love to see one of these AI motors in a true street car running 10's and even into the 9's on the bottle.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:55 PM
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I don't see how it would be stupid to drive a 9 or 10 sec car around. A C6 Z06 on drag radials will go 10's, do you think its stupid to drive that around?

I assume you are talking about Mighty Mouse who wrecked his car a couple years ago. It had all the safety stuff in it and he walked away from it. Are you trying to say race cars never crash?? He has built another car running low 9's and weighs 3800lbs, full interior, drag radials.

Sorry to take this off topic. I would love to see one of these AI motors in a true street car running 10's and even into the 9's on the bottle.


Hes been 8's...and still stupid if you ask me.....160MPH with the bare minimum is just dumb....you don't walk away from all of them.

Its not smart to drive acar around with that much power....its asking for trouble.

I never seen a stock vette go 10's on DR's either..... You have wool over your eyes buddy.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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I agree that car seems to be their advertising token, I'm sure there's been alot more time put into working his heads and designing that valvetrain and cam combo than what the average Joe would get for his money
I don't see any thing wrong with advertising good results. The results of the time spent on this car go directly into what the "average joe" gets. You can very easily buy this exact engine package and ECU combination and see for your self.

Here is a video of the tuning session.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...LT1_188561.htm

If you want to see what this package will do in a true street car, simply swap the drag tires for 275/40/17's.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mdacton


Hes been 8's...and still stupid if you ask me.....160MPH with the bare minimum is just dumb....you don't walk away from all of them.

Its not smart to drive acar around with that much power....its asking for trouble.

I never seen a stock vette go 10's on DR's either..... You have wool over your eyes buddy.
I have watched a bone stock C6 Z06 go 10.85 at MIR on drag radials. Do a search.

I'm not bashing you or what you like in any way. I'm just saying if you don't drive like an idiot there is no problem with driving a 9sec car on the street.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by whyrun
I agree that car seems to be their advertising token, I'm sure there's been alot more time put into working his heads and designing that valvetrain and cam combo than what the average Joe would get for his money
I'm sorry you find it hard to believe, but these are 100% the same heads and cam you could purchase. Why would Ai setup a completly different CNC program? A little integrity in the racing industry goes a long way. Honesty brings business, not underhanded business dealings like so many other companies.

Get out your check book or credit card and see for yourself.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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you would travel half way across the country for.........
... to say I did it.
I like road trips and like gatherings, but like I said I won't go unless I can run and who the hell knows from day to day.
Old Oct 2, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by buzz12586
I have watched a bone stock C6 Z06 go 10.85 at MIR on drag radials. Do a search.

I'm not bashing you or what you like in any way. I'm just saying if you don't drive like an idiot there is no problem with driving a 9sec car on the street.
Ill agree completely with this, if your not an idiot you can drive a very quick car on the street safely.

Originally Posted by tireburnin
I'm sorry you find it hard to believe, but these are 100% the same heads and cam you could purchase. Why would Ai setup a completly different CNC program? A little integrity in the racing industry goes a long way. Honesty brings business, not underhanded business dealings like so many other companies.

Get out your check book or credit card and see for yourself.
So your saying I can buy a 9 second car with typical tuning and a set of heads and cam?
Old Oct 3, 2008 | 12:11 AM
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Ill agree completely with this, if your not an idiot you can drive a very quick car on the street safely.

So your saying I can buy a 9 second car with typical tuning and a set of heads and cam?
No I said the parts that Rick runs are the same as anything you could buy through Ai. Rick bought a crate engine from Ai to run in his car that was complete, tuned and ready to go. You could purchase that same engine and be making 550rwhp through an auto if you so desired.

A 9 second car is much different than a high horsepower motor. You can have either or both, but the power doesn't garuntee the ET.

And as for the very quick car on the street, I have a feeling you have never driven a very quick car on the street or raced one at the track. 550rwhp is going to be LOUD, aggressive and will break the tires loose at 60+ mph. That kind of power can break many parts at the worst times.

Cruising with a fast car is nice, but trying to go to work isn't as fun in one.
Old Oct 3, 2008 | 12:46 AM
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Ill agree completely with this, if your not an idiot you can drive a very quick car on the street safely.

So your saying I can buy a 9 second car with typical tuning and a set of heads and cam?
Sure, you can drive a fast car on the street safely... it just won't run 9.64 @140 MPH from the red light to Wendy's. It's going to need a track for that.

The Ai 383-R is a turn key engine & ECU package, not a typical cam and heads package and mail order tune. However, the Ai TFS 215cc CNC head is the same port regardless of customer. So, no, you will not bolt on these heads to a stock 200,000 mi. short block, 4:10 10 bolt, 2,500 rpm converter on a stock A4, and get the same performance/ reliability.
Old Oct 3, 2008 | 08:37 AM
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What I'm saying is the average joe is not going to get the same result from just calling up AI and buying this Engine..I'm sure the cost alone will deter 90% of us.. And I'm sure he gets some pretty nice perks for letting them advertise his car.. But now that it has been metioned I was always under the impression he had pieced the engine together I didn't know he bought a complete engine.

I'm not knocking them buy NO Means it appears they have alot of high HP cars coming out of that shop And I am still considering who to go with myself and I have to say seeing all that HP can sway a fellow for sure.. I just going fast didnt cost so much
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[QUOTE=mdacton;5613220]Why......to run all 15 people that show up?

screw that shootout it sucks.

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If you are talking about the LTX Shootout in KC well I must say thanks for the lack of support. Sorry for trying to put on an event for the bastard stepchild of GM. Sorry for organizing a gathering among our fellow LTXers. Sorry for giving everyone something to look forward to every year. Sorry for having it in the middle of the country so it gives everyone a chance to make it. Most guys on here do not run in there local racing series every week but like to make a couple of events a year this being one of them. This event was a blast and next year will be even better. Chris Sykora, Taner Bosnali, myself, Jeff Gilbert, Madman, GHMTP, the sponsors ....etc all wanted to see the race a success and support it. We had 50 participants this past year even with the bad weather. Not bad for a 1st time event. Would love to have you at the 2009 event.



As far as Rick and AI's accomplishments. I will say again. Damn good job! 9.6 N/A is impressive no matter how you got there.


Tony Shepherd

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