should I get WRX or Z28
09-19-2002, 11:09 AM
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Sorry for the inflamatory post. Just got my feather flustered.
Camaros are good cars, yes you can make them fast for pretty cheap. Wrxs are pretty amazing little cars, my car for instance has about 500 crank HP and SHOULD be in the 11's (havent run it at the track since some stuff was tuned).
I have ridden in some very fast camaros and while they do have lots of torque and power they still lack that feeling of solidity that the wrx has (awd is nice to have aint it). Granted i am bias, but i personaly think the wrx is an all around better car, (when you factor in handling, possible power, and yes looks. Face it if you guys came up to me on the streets and i took off you guys would be pissed that a wagon just smoked you. As for WRX's getting pulle don the freeway, with the right turbo, engine management, and other bolt ons these little cars SCREAM. What do you ask is screaming? Lets just say a nice new shiny aston martin DB7 Vantage isnt going to be able to keep up at SANE freeway speeds.
Dollar for Dollar what car is fastest is simple. There is no replacement for displacment. (well except a huge turbo of course....hehe)
Anyways i do agree with the guy above who said we both communities should meet and greet, you guys shouldnt be so fast to write off the WRX, it is after all a completely new platform in the US, and yes much to the shegrin of every flag waving patriot muscle head your only going to see more cars like this (EVO, Cosworth Escort {i hope at least}, STI, etc)
So Cheers to the guy above who made a good post nice to see there are some level headed people on here who understand and are willing to learn about different types of cars. And as a member of the subaru community i must apolgise for my inflamatory post before, just makes me mad to see such iggnorance being waved around.
Camaros are good cars, yes you can make them fast for pretty cheap. Wrxs are pretty amazing little cars, my car for instance has about 500 crank HP and SHOULD be in the 11's (havent run it at the track since some stuff was tuned).
I have ridden in some very fast camaros and while they do have lots of torque and power they still lack that feeling of solidity that the wrx has (awd is nice to have aint it). Granted i am bias, but i personaly think the wrx is an all around better car, (when you factor in handling, possible power, and yes looks. Face it if you guys came up to me on the streets and i took off you guys would be pissed that a wagon just smoked you. As for WRX's getting pulle don the freeway, with the right turbo, engine management, and other bolt ons these little cars SCREAM. What do you ask is screaming? Lets just say a nice new shiny aston martin DB7 Vantage isnt going to be able to keep up at SANE freeway speeds.
Dollar for Dollar what car is fastest is simple. There is no replacement for displacment. (well except a huge turbo of course....hehe)
Anyways i do agree with the guy above who said we both communities should meet and greet, you guys shouldnt be so fast to write off the WRX, it is after all a completely new platform in the US, and yes much to the shegrin of every flag waving patriot muscle head your only going to see more cars like this (EVO, Cosworth Escort {i hope at least}, STI, etc)
So Cheers to the guy above who made a good post nice to see there are some level headed people on here who understand and are willing to learn about different types of cars. And as a member of the subaru community i must apolgise for my inflamatory post before, just makes me mad to see such iggnorance being waved around.
09-19-2002, 11:18 AM
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Ok heres some bragging for ya.
Ever merge onto the freeway in a four wheel drift? Fun stuff, imagine kick the *** end out and beign able to simply step on it more and the back end jsut simply catches up and boom your off.
There are plenty of wrx's that are deep into the 12's a few into the 11's one into the 10s (in the us mind you) and there is even 2 in the 9's in AUS. My car personaly lays down about 370 WHP which would peg the crank hp around 500 or so (depending on what dyno you use). It is daily driven pump gas fed car, if i want more power i simply twirl a *** (boost controler) and presto it has more power. As for handling these cars ar epretty dang amazing, not only does the AWD help out alot but the chassis is extremly stiff and rigid, why i pretty much only have lowering springs and man i can tell you it handles like a dream. I do suggest that you take a ride in a modified WRX, as they are 200x better then a stock one, these cars realy shine when you start modifying them there is no way around that. In stock form they are like yours guys cars but a lil slower, when you start adding a bigger turbo, larger intercooler, boost controller, exhaust, enginemanagement, new fuel system. They turn into ROCKETS (that list of parts should put you about a low 12 high 11 if done right). Anyways enought about our cars, if you want to check out more go to www.i-club.com and click on forums, if you want tech talk check out the factory forced induction forums. The subaru community is full of knowledgable and nice people who would be more then willing to answer any questions that arent posted in an inflamatory way.
Cheers
Ever merge onto the freeway in a four wheel drift? Fun stuff, imagine kick the *** end out and beign able to simply step on it more and the back end jsut simply catches up and boom your off.
There are plenty of wrx's that are deep into the 12's a few into the 11's one into the 10s (in the us mind you) and there is even 2 in the 9's in AUS. My car personaly lays down about 370 WHP which would peg the crank hp around 500 or so (depending on what dyno you use). It is daily driven pump gas fed car, if i want more power i simply twirl a *** (boost controler) and presto it has more power. As for handling these cars ar epretty dang amazing, not only does the AWD help out alot but the chassis is extremly stiff and rigid, why i pretty much only have lowering springs and man i can tell you it handles like a dream. I do suggest that you take a ride in a modified WRX, as they are 200x better then a stock one, these cars realy shine when you start modifying them there is no way around that. In stock form they are like yours guys cars but a lil slower, when you start adding a bigger turbo, larger intercooler, boost controller, exhaust, enginemanagement, new fuel system. They turn into ROCKETS (that list of parts should put you about a low 12 high 11 if done right). Anyways enought about our cars, if you want to check out more go to www.i-club.com and click on forums, if you want tech talk check out the factory forced induction forums. The subaru community is full of knowledgable and nice people who would be more then willing to answer any questions that arent posted in an inflamatory way.
Cheers
09-19-2002, 11:29 AM
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BOTH THE WRX AND MY SS KICK BOOTY!!!!!
Here's my opinion since I actually own both vehicles. Dan00Hawk is also my friend, now that's fun 
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I can truly say that I LOVE both of my cars. I'm so blessed to even be able to drive both of them. I was an instant fan of the WRX when they first came out. I even influenced my friend and my brother to buy one. Why? because I actually took the step to find out more about them instead of just labeling them as "RICE".
hopefullyz28, take Dan's advice, check out both cars thoroughly and drive them both as well. Look at your needs, and then choose the car that will fulfill most if not all of them.
Well, i bought the SS because I loved the brute instantaneous power of the LS1. I loved the sound of the car as well. I already knew that I was buying a potential 13.0 muscle car out of the box. The top end on these cars ROCK!!!!! The main reason why I bought it was because it was FUN to drive and practical for what I needed it for (Except the winter
).
The WRX...well, the fact that its a turbo, 4 door, AWD, and potential low 14 second car, made it AS exciting. This car is even MORE practical than my SS, and its NO slouch. I knew from day one that I wasn't going to drive my SS in the winter, but if you don't care about that then so be it. That's one of the reasons why I bought my WRX. You will be amazed when you do a 5.5k RPM launch at a stop light. You'll have a smile from ear to ear. The one thing with the WRX is that you must keep the RPMs up if you plan on enjoying it, if not it's a dog.
Racing....both cars will react differently in the 1/4, stock or highly modified. Then again, you will start off with a lot more power if you choose to go the Z28 route.
Again, don't let bias opinions make up your mind. Please drive both cars and see what you like the best. Keep an OPEN mind. Peace
.I can truly say that I LOVE both of my cars. I'm so blessed to even be able to drive both of them. I was an instant fan of the WRX when they first came out. I even influenced my friend and my brother to buy one. Why? because I actually took the step to find out more about them instead of just labeling them as "RICE".
hopefullyz28, take Dan's advice, check out both cars thoroughly and drive them both as well. Look at your needs, and then choose the car that will fulfill most if not all of them.
Well, i bought the SS because I loved the brute instantaneous power of the LS1. I loved the sound of the car as well. I already knew that I was buying a potential 13.0 muscle car out of the box. The top end on these cars ROCK!!!!! The main reason why I bought it was because it was FUN to drive and practical for what I needed it for (Except the winter
).The WRX...well, the fact that its a turbo, 4 door, AWD, and potential low 14 second car, made it AS exciting. This car is even MORE practical than my SS, and its NO slouch. I knew from day one that I wasn't going to drive my SS in the winter, but if you don't care about that then so be it. That's one of the reasons why I bought my WRX. You will be amazed when you do a 5.5k RPM launch at a stop light. You'll have a smile from ear to ear. The one thing with the WRX is that you must keep the RPMs up if you plan on enjoying it, if not it's a dog.
Racing....both cars will react differently in the 1/4, stock or highly modified. Then again, you will start off with a lot more power if you choose to go the Z28 route.
Again, don't let bias opinions make up your mind. Please drive both cars and see what you like the best. Keep an OPEN mind. Peace
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09-19-2002, 12:15 PM
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Any of you WRX guys got any links to a WRX pulling 11 second or 12 second runs at the track? Even better, any of them doing a 4 wheel handling maneuvers? I can imagine that you can probably get a lil crazy with it, if you know what you are doing Also, what does it cost to do all that engine management, upgraded turbo.. and things of that nature? What are some of the cheaper mods and their cost? What kind of gains can you expect to see from these mods? I think its amazing you guys are crankin out 500hp.. although forced induction comes to play.. that's still a very respectable amount of power no matter how you stack it up.. To reach that in a ls1 camaro, you'd probably need longtube headers, a fairly large cam, and headwork.. other small boltons wouldn't hurt.. (ie. cold air, and catback)... Either way you stack it up.. you can have fast cars in both categories.. Although, forced induction in a camaro.. that is just insane There are tons of 500rwhp+ forced induction camaro's.. whether it be superchargers or turbo's..
I also think the argument that straight line power is pointless is stupid You know it grabs you by the booboo when you kick it and it rips your nuts off.. Same as it grabs you by the booboo sliding through a turn and puking your guts out.. Neither is a thing I wouldn't want in the car My car does both pretty well, as I also have a bit of an upgraded suspension..
Also, what does it cost to do all that engine management, upgraded turbo.. and things of that nature? What are some of the cheaper mods and their cost? What kind of gains can you expect to see from these mods? I think its amazing you guys are crankin out 500hp.. although forced induction comes to play.. that's still a very respectable amount of power no matter how you stack it up.. To reach that in a ls1 camaro, you'd probably need longtube headers, a fairly large cam, and headwork.. other small boltons wouldn't hurt.. (ie. cold air, and catback)... Either way you stack it up.. you can have fast cars in both categories.. Although, forced induction in a camaro.. that is just insane There are tons of 500rwhp+ forced induction camaro's.. whether it be superchargers or turbo's.. I also think the argument that straight line power is pointless is stupid
You know it grabs you by the booboo when you kick it and it rips your nuts off.. Same as it grabs you by the booboo sliding through a turn and puking your guts out.. Neither is a thing I wouldn't want in the car My car does both pretty well, as I also have a bit of an upgraded suspension..
09-19-2002, 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by 1FSTWRX
Ok heres some bragging for ya.
Ever merge onto the freeway in a four wheel drift? Fun stuff, imagine kick the *** end out and beign able to simply step on it more and the back end jsut simply catches up and boom your off.
Ok heres some bragging for ya.
Ever merge onto the freeway in a four wheel drift? Fun stuff, imagine kick the *** end out and beign able to simply step on it more and the back end jsut simply catches up and boom your off.
No, cause I have enough traction and sensability to turn in, steer, and exit out smoothly, yielding higher exit speeds for a quicker and safer merge.
09-19-2002, 01:33 PM
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LOL!!
This is one of the funniest threads I have ever read. A handful of you guys know what your talking about and taking the time to answer the original question while trying to be somewhat unbiased. As for the rest of you, wow, the close-minded replies and insults directed at hopefullyz28 are very lame.
I used to drive a Trans Am. I thought it was an awesome car. It had power, cornered well, and could absolutely destroy a set of tires with no problem at all.
I also own a WRX now and I also believe it to be an awesome car. It also has power (but a much different kind of power), corners much better, and can’t destroy the stock rubber.
I also owned a 99 Grand Am…. What a piece of crap that was!!! Nothing but problems and the biggest headache I’ve ever owned.
The TA was great but it lacked in fit and finish. It creaked, rattled, and rolled on the road. It would pull some stupid top speeds but I got nailed once and it wasn’t pretty. IMO, top speed racing applies on the Auto Bahn only, not around here (too expensive).
The WRX is nice. I hated the front lights and I bought a set of eyelids for it. That fixed that. The interior fit and finish isn’t the best either but the car is so solid there are no creaks (and shouldn’t be provided it stays straight).
The TA looks awesome, very aggressive. I love the look of the Formula. I also like the Camaro’s.
The WRX (to me) doesn’t look all that exciting. The fender flares are nice but it doesn’t look at all aggressive.
As far as performance goes, I would have no problem racing a Camaro or some other V8. I may get smoked; I may not. Depends on the driver I’m running with. I took it to a done up Capri a little while ago. The launch is what gave me the edge and I shut down at 100mph. If you can’t catch me by 100mph, tough, that’s your problem and you lost.
As far as comparing a worked WRX to a stock Camaro or visa-versa, that’s BS. I watched an old Caravan run the ¼ mile in 11 seconds. That alone will take the majority Camaro’s and WRX’s to the cleaners.
Drive what you will, each car shines in its own way. The Camaro has the edge on the WRX is some areas as does the WRX against the Camaro.
As far as the “glass transmission” problems go, bull****. These are drivers that have absolutely no clue how to drive their car (unless heavily modified). There is a hardened gear set available for the stock transmission casing that is rather affordable. There is no need to buy an STI transmission, as you all seem to believe.
This is one of the funniest threads I have ever read. A handful of you guys know what your talking about and taking the time to answer the original question while trying to be somewhat unbiased. As for the rest of you, wow, the close-minded replies and insults directed at hopefullyz28 are very lame.
I used to drive a Trans Am. I thought it was an awesome car. It had power, cornered well, and could absolutely destroy a set of tires with no problem at all.
I also own a WRX now and I also believe it to be an awesome car. It also has power (but a much different kind of power), corners much better, and can’t destroy the stock rubber.
I also owned a 99 Grand Am…. What a piece of crap that was!!! Nothing but problems and the biggest headache I’ve ever owned.
The TA was great but it lacked in fit and finish. It creaked, rattled, and rolled on the road. It would pull some stupid top speeds but I got nailed once and it wasn’t pretty. IMO, top speed racing applies on the Auto Bahn only, not around here (too expensive).
The WRX is nice. I hated the front lights and I bought a set of eyelids for it. That fixed that. The interior fit and finish isn’t the best either but the car is so solid there are no creaks (and shouldn’t be provided it stays straight).
The TA looks awesome, very aggressive. I love the look of the Formula. I also like the Camaro’s.
The WRX (to me) doesn’t look all that exciting. The fender flares are nice but it doesn’t look at all aggressive.
As far as performance goes, I would have no problem racing a Camaro or some other V8. I may get smoked; I may not. Depends on the driver I’m running with. I took it to a done up Capri a little while ago. The launch is what gave me the edge and I shut down at 100mph. If you can’t catch me by 100mph, tough, that’s your problem and you lost.
As far as comparing a worked WRX to a stock Camaro or visa-versa, that’s BS. I watched an old Caravan run the ¼ mile in 11 seconds. That alone will take the majority Camaro’s and WRX’s to the cleaners.
Drive what you will, each car shines in its own way. The Camaro has the edge on the WRX is some areas as does the WRX against the Camaro.
As far as the “glass transmission” problems go, bull****. These are drivers that have absolutely no clue how to drive their car (unless heavily modified). There is a hardened gear set available for the stock transmission casing that is rather affordable. There is no need to buy an STI transmission, as you all seem to believe.
09-19-2002, 01:50 PM
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My car still has a stock tranny stock block stock internals stock clutch stock everything, minus new turbo new injectors new fuel pump new ecu. So your point sabout having to buy an upgraded drivetrain are moot. And yes it has been driven at this power level for over 11k miles.
As for cost of a kit that would put it in the mid to low 12s its only about 4 g installed.
As for your car laying down 370 whp you dont have allwheel drive so 370 in my car is about 500+ at the crank. While yours is about 420 or so. Also what does a ls1 weight? Im going to assume that the wrx is a tid bit lighter (prob not much) .
And the turbo that is on the faster cars goes for about 900-1g you can prob get it cheaper.
BTW wonderful thing about AWD is you just stay on the throttle, maybe back out a little when youir in a drift. no need to steer in, as when you do grab traction you will shoot off in the wrong direction. In an awd the way to enter nad exit a corner with the fastest speeds is a drift. This allows you to go in without braking and exit with about the same speed, once you gain traction again boom your right where you need to be RPM wise (if all goes well that is, much harder to do then it is to type it).
Face it guys both cars are two different types of cars. Just so happens that they can both be modified lightly and gain HUGE performance gains. Our cars are 4 door 2 liter 4 bangers with awd, you guys are rwd 8 cyl with 2 doors.
Nuff said.
As for cost of a kit that would put it in the mid to low 12s its only about 4 g installed.
As for your car laying down 370 whp you dont have allwheel drive so 370 in my car is about 500+ at the crank. While yours is about 420 or so. Also what does a ls1 weight? Im going to assume that the wrx is a tid bit lighter (prob not much) .
And the turbo that is on the faster cars goes for about 900-1g you can prob get it cheaper.
BTW wonderful thing about AWD is you just stay on the throttle, maybe back out a little when youir in a drift. no need to steer in, as when you do grab traction you will shoot off in the wrong direction. In an awd the way to enter nad exit a corner with the fastest speeds is a drift. This allows you to go in without braking and exit with about the same speed, once you gain traction again boom your right where you need to be RPM wise (if all goes well that is, much harder to do then it is to type it).
Face it guys both cars are two different types of cars. Just so happens that they can both be modified lightly and gain HUGE performance gains. Our cars are 4 door 2 liter 4 bangers with awd, you guys are rwd 8 cyl with 2 doors.
Nuff said.
09-19-2002, 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by 1FSTWRX
And yes it has been driven at this power level for over 11k miles.
As for cost of a kit that would put it in the mid to low 12s its only about 4 g installed.
And yes it has been driven at this power level for over 11k miles.
As for cost of a kit that would put it in the mid to low 12s its only about 4 g installed.
09-19-2002, 02:20 PM
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Dont be angry that i am providing counter points to the points that you raise.
I am not a dreamer. i have dyno charts to prove my power outputs, just need to scan them and poist them. Look i orginaly posted her due to the iggnorance in regards to the WRX. yes i posted a stupid post, so burn me for that i deserve it. Dont get all pissy when i produce some info that could educate you. Yes i have a fast wrx, yes there is faster wrxs in the us then mine. Face it you guys arent hight nad mighty like you act, yes your cars are fast stock (faster then a stock wrx). But dont write our cars off with no respect as ricer cars, or piles of *** crap. They arent a simply a raced out daewoo these cars are fast and are only going to get faster, they have only been in the us for a year or so now and we allready have a 10 sec wrx, a handful of 11 second wrxs and boatloads of 12 sec wrxs rumblign the streets. Any way you slice it these cars are wonderful little cars, they are pretty amazing if you think of the potential power output coming form a 2 liter 4 cyl. (once again mine makes 500+ at the crank) Do the math 250 hp per liter, or 125 hp per cyl. Not very many camaros making that sort of power when you break it down, that are daily driveable. I know that you guys are goign to repsond with posts like that is bull crap blah blah blah, all im looking for here is to educate you guys on our cars, and maybe learn a bit from you guys. (and brag a bit of course) hehe
Feel free to ask as many questiosn as you like ill try and answer them.
And if i drift into a tree or truck more power to me, just means ill be making a purpose built racer from what is left.
(and i dopnt care for dsm's much eaither but some of them are pretty bad ***)
Cheers.
I am not a dreamer. i have dyno charts to prove my power outputs, just need to scan them and poist them. Look i orginaly posted her due to the iggnorance in regards to the WRX. yes i posted a stupid post, so burn me for that i deserve it. Dont get all pissy when i produce some info that could educate you. Yes i have a fast wrx, yes there is faster wrxs in the us then mine. Face it you guys arent hight nad mighty like you act, yes your cars are fast stock (faster then a stock wrx). But dont write our cars off with no respect as ricer cars, or piles of *** crap. They arent a simply a raced out daewoo these cars are fast and are only going to get faster, they have only been in the us for a year or so now and we allready have a 10 sec wrx, a handful of 11 second wrxs and boatloads of 12 sec wrxs rumblign the streets. Any way you slice it these cars are wonderful little cars, they are pretty amazing if you think of the potential power output coming form a 2 liter 4 cyl. (once again mine makes 500+ at the crank) Do the math 250 hp per liter, or 125 hp per cyl. Not very many camaros making that sort of power when you break it down, that are daily driveable. I know that you guys are goign to repsond with posts like that is bull crap blah blah blah, all im looking for here is to educate you guys on our cars, and maybe learn a bit from you guys. (and brag a bit of course) hehe
Feel free to ask as many questiosn as you like ill try and answer them.
And if i drift into a tree or truck more power to me, just means ill be making a purpose built racer from what is left.
(and i dopnt care for dsm's much eaither but some of them are pretty bad ***)
Cheers.
09-19-2002, 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by Chris89Stang
LOL! The guy friggin' owns one and you are saying because YOU don't think they are out he doesn't.
The '03 models ARE OUT! They have been for a month now. There are a couple sitting at the local Subaru dealership right now.
Oh, and Road & Track are wrong. There wasn't any body changes.
LOL! The guy friggin' owns one and you are saying because YOU don't think they are out he doesn't.
The '03 models ARE OUT! They have been for a month now. There are a couple sitting at the local Subaru dealership right now.
Oh, and Road & Track are wrong. There wasn't any body changes.
Continue beating on your chests and shouting owned.
Anyways if any of you guys dont think WRXs are doing 10s....
Click this link
http://63.164.33.8/esx/ESX-10second-...subaru-wrx.mov
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09-19-2002, 02:45 PM
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Actually I know enough about them.. They just arent for me..
Last night i was driving my friends 2.5 Imprezza at the track.. handles fine but just not a fast car.. 16.5 sec 1/4 mile.. i know its not the turbo car but it just doesnt feel... sturdy i guess is the word i am looking for..
If I could get any import, personally, my vote goes to this:
Just happens to be a nice import that is fast..
hehe
But WRC aside, its not cheap to do that... My LS1 is fast stock.. and with just a supercharger I can potentially have a very quick car that requires no out of the norm mainenance..
Power adders like turbos and superchargers are rarely maintenance free when you start to mod them...
The owner of the 2.5 was wanting an STi but I think that he is going to start looking elsewhere.. His car really annoyed him.. he didnt have many mods but he was expecting a bit more.. I think he is a little disallusioned.. He is also talking about an EVO VIII but in reality, unless you live in snow plagued areas, Texas isnt the best place for AWD.. no real need for it.. Sooo, now he is looking at the new 350Z.... (and his father is an exec at GM!)
Last night i was driving my friends 2.5 Imprezza at the track.. handles fine but just not a fast car.. 16.5 sec 1/4 mile.. i know its not the turbo car but it just doesnt feel... sturdy i guess is the word i am looking for..
If I could get any import, personally, my vote goes to this:
Just happens to be a nice import that is fast..
hehe
But WRC aside, its not cheap to do that... My LS1 is fast stock.. and with just a supercharger I can potentially have a very quick car that requires no out of the norm mainenance..
Power adders like turbos and superchargers are rarely maintenance free when you start to mod them...
The owner of the 2.5 was wanting an STi but I think that he is going to start looking elsewhere.. His car really annoyed him.. he didnt have many mods but he was expecting a bit more.. I think he is a little disallusioned.. He is also talking about an EVO VIII but in reality, unless you live in snow plagued areas, Texas isnt the best place for AWD.. no real need for it.. Sooo, now he is looking at the new 350Z.... (and his father is an exec at GM!)
09-19-2002, 02:46 PM
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Um yes my car is as fast as i say yes i do have time slips, 12.20's at sears point all day long. This was befored it was tuned properly and before it had a lil larger injectors. It should be able to do a 11.90 or so the way it sat then if it was at a different track, But those are excuses, i will post my first mid 11 second pass hopefully next friday.
What have you posted?
Cheers
What have you posted?
Cheers
09-19-2002, 02:50 PM
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500 flywheel hp isn't too drastic on a daily driven fbody, with the side benift of having a smoother wider powerband..
I'm not going into hp/L
You spend money on just about any ride, and you can make it fast. it all comes down to cubic dollars..
I'm not going into hp/L
You spend money on just about any ride, and you can make it fast. it all comes down to cubic dollars..
09-19-2002, 03:02 PM
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I like that saying cubic dollars. Yes that is true, all i am shooting for here is again a lil respect, and to show you gusy that not all wrx drivers are riced out japs that mod there windsheild wiper squiters.
(i hate that crap)
(i hate that crap)
09-19-2002, 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by 1FSTWRX
I like that saying cubic dollars. Yes that is true, all i am shooting for here is again a lil respect, and to show you gusy that not all wrx drivers are riced out japs that mod there windsheild wiper squiters.
(i hate that crap)
I like that saying cubic dollars. Yes that is true, all i am shooting for here is again a lil respect, and to show you gusy that not all wrx drivers are riced out japs that mod there windsheild wiper squiters.
(i hate that crap)