Hey guys I am a noob when it comes to stalls. Will this work in our cars?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ACC-2...QQcmdZViewItem

Also do I have to buy a new flexplate if I install this stall into my car?

 

To the top, i would too like to know about that one.

 

I have never heard of that particular company and not to mention they refer to the 4L60-E tranny as the 4160-E tranny, that would automatically set of a red alert as to how good of a converter maker this company really is. Not to mention I find it hard to believe these converters will withstand 800HP+ cars and cost under three hundred dollars. There are several good converters out there for these cars that cater to a budget minded individual. Fuddle and Edge are a couple places where you can get a good quality converter for a decent price. Keep in mind if you do go with a higher stall converter, to also install a tranny cooler as well.

 

I agree with 2000GTP, when it comes to upgrading the torque converter in your car, it is not a place to skimp. I would recomend going with a good company to ensure you get a high quality, efficent converter that will give you good driving manners as well as performance. I used an EDGE converter when I was running my 4L60E and was very happy with it. You definetly need a tranny cooler when rasing the stall.

 

So to answer your question, yes it will work. But I don't think you'll find anyone here that will recomend trying one.
The converters of choice around here seem to be Yank and Vig. Both a little spendy, but well worth it.

 

Yeah I have looked at both the Yank and Vig, and would love to get one. You are right though they are pricey. I asked about this one as it is quite affordable, and I am doing some upgrades soon, and could get one within my budget this go around. If I went with a Vig I would have to wait, which I am not opposed to, but if that one works why wait. I'll look into ACC converters and see what people think of them, and report back.

As far as the listing goes. ACC makes the converter there site is here http://www.accperformance.com/ they do not list the tranny as a 4160-E. The guys selling on ebay may or may not know what a 4L60-E is but they do know how to sell things as they have a very good customer feed back rating. Its like a car sales man. Sure they don't know what the hell a LS-7 is and they think it makes 800hp and is the faastest thing ever built, but as long as you know what your buying then you wont be disappointed.

Here is what the ACC converters offer: http://www.accperformance.com/features.htm

So I dont need a new flexplate, but I do need a tranny cooler. Thanks!!

 

I know nothing specifically about the converter but have a couple of comments that may be relevant.

1. The copy is very poorly written, which gives me some doubts about the whole operation. Not only is it not very literate, the claims seem very exaggerated. For example, the eBay ad states "Works great in mild to heavily modified Small block and big block engines". This is not possible. Let's see, a mild small block might have 250hp and 350ft-lbs of torque. A heavily modified street big block could easily have 600+ of each. The same converter will not work "great" behind both motors, let alone considering you might be talking about a 3,000lb vehicle with 4.11's or a 5,000lb truck with 3.43's. It's not going to happen!
2. There is no something for nothing in converters. All of the components come from the same manufacturers, except for the very high end where there are some propietary parts used. This means that a $300 converter is a $300 converter. Necessarily inadeqaute for your use? No, not necessarily. But don't expect something for nothing.

Rich

 

Yeah you get what you pay for, and I am certain it is not a vig by any stretch of the imagination. Just curious if it is "good enough" for my car and needs. Ill never know unless I get it, and I hate using substandard parts, I just hate I have to pay $400-$500 more for one that it proven.

Thank you all for your comments. It has helped me to realize that saving a buck isnt worth it. I have great parts in my car now so why stop a good thing.

 

From my post above I mentioned using an EDGE racing converter. Mine was $535 shipped to my door and was built according to my car's specs, that was a few years back so the price may have went up some. I was in the same boat as you at the time, I wanted a good converter but couldn't afford the VIG or Yank. The EDGE cost is much less than a VIG or YANK and is a quality converter. There is a thread still on the 1st page of the Drivetrain forum about EDGE converters. Might be something to look at as it is only 2-3 hundred more than the Ebay converter and has a quality and reputable background. www.edgeracingconverters.com

 

Thanks I will definately look into it. After my new breaks, and rear end money gets tight. I was looking at upgrading my valvetrain minus valves. 1.6s springs and the rest. I maybe about to get away with the Edge instead as I think a stall is gonna give me more of what I want, especially at the track.

 

WOW!! I just read up on the EDGE and it really sounds awesome. I had no idea the Stall was such a personal part (much like cams) I thought it was one size fits all. Goes to show you though a Summit catalog is a far cry from a teaching manual.

Thank you ALL so very much. It is great to be a part of a community that watches out for each other. I would have made a huge mistake without you!