What if the SS were the entry level supercharged Ecotec for $20K,(like in the other thread)?

Hey.....I'm not kidding.

 

Put me on the list for 1 of those "Real Z28's" too. Looks, handling, braking, and an engine that can take/put out more than bigger engines.

 

You talk about stating facts then you post the B.S. about the 67 & 68 Z/28's not being available to the general public? They sure as heck were and they weren't "restricted" either.

 

No Camaro should ever have a 4 cylinder. End of discussion.

 

Amen brother. Lose the Camaro SS completely!

 

This is funny -- Z28 owners on one side and SS owners on the other side.

Z28 owners are mad because they feel as if their model got the shaft when they constantly try to argue that they are on par with performance. No matter how much they think their car is the same stock for stock, it isn't. Even if the SS's differences are mainly appearance, it still has a better flowing exhaust, a "semi" functioning ram air system as some of you put it and better suspension which puts it's above a stock Z in performance. Stock vs Stock with equal drivers, the SS will take it. Even if barely, the SS will still take it.

No matter what you guys think, the times have changed. Back then "Z/28" was the name people looked for, for performance. Now it's "SS" and guess what....

The "SS" formula worked, they sold quite a lot. Reversing it would have had the same effect. By going by what some of you are saying, I guess in that case, you could blame it on the Z28 for the death if things were reversed.


I don't know why you Z28 guys always bicker about this. Why does it matter? Because Z28 used to be the fastest? Who cares, it's still a camaro.

I could really care less about the name. Hell, the car could say, "Z-I-AM-GAY/28" or "S-IM-A-QUEER-S", and as long as it smokes those annoying S/C'd Mustangs, I could care less. Just calm down and hope for just that. Stop praying for the death of a successul model just because you're stuck in the past.

All in all, you guys are arguing over a badge on the side of a car. As I said again, who cares? It's STILL a Camaro. When you look up the VIN for an SS, what do you get?

You get "Camaro Z28 2 door coupe". As I said before, it's just a badge, get over it.

 

The point is that prior to the birth of the "SS" in 1996, the Z/28 was always the top handling Camaro (be it Z/28, Z28, Z-28 or IROC-Z).

I just want Chevrolet to return to its roots.

Quite frankly, if I had my way there would be four Camaro models.....

Base Camaro V6
Base Camaro V8 (5.3L)
Camaro Z/28 (6.0L V8 not available in convertible)
Camaro SS (8.1L V8 big block)

The one with the best handling and stripes would be the Z/28.

 

Ahhhh.....you bring up an excellent point! Most of those who find themselves in the SS camp....could care less about what it's called....and really have no affinity for the name.

But those in the Z/28 camp will accept no substitute.

Sooo...if I were a GM product planner...what would I do?

Hmmmmmmm..........

 

You quoted me, now read what I wrote again. Don't quote me, change what I wrote to what you misinterpreted, then give me grief. And since you accuse me of posting B.S. (it wasn't), that comes close to a personal attack, so does that make the first part of my post wrong in your eyes also?

This is what I finished with: "Ok, they were [speaking of a '67 or '68 being available to the general public], but limited #'s plus nobody knowing what they were restricted availability."[emphasis added].
Do you know how many '67 and '68 Zs were produced? Not a lot. I was a car nut at the time, and the '69s were out before I realized what a Z/28 was. You had as good of a shot at getting a B4C Special Service Coupe in 2002 (better, because you could search the Internet) than a Z/28 in '67.

 

They made over 7,000 Z/28's in 1968...so at least that many people knew what they were...

 

The ironic thing is I have never owned a Camaro SS... I had a 99 Z28.

And for what it's worth, I actually perfer the Z28 name.

My whole arguement is all the SS bashing is ridiculous and uncalled for.... especially when it is "OK" for the IROC-Z to do the exact same stuff just because it was an almighty 3rd Gen (which I also owned (89 RS))

 

Because it was an "Ultimate Z28." The SS name has and had nothing to do with the Z28, ever.

 

I guess you missed all the Z28 to SS stuff I mentioned a billion times?

The fact that an SS *IS* a Z28... with the SS Performance and Appearance package...

The fac tthat early 4th gen SS's were actaully called Z28/SS's...

The fact that the 4th Gen SS never killed off the Z28 name like IROC-Z did....


Aw, never mind...

 

And you must have not read the stuff I posted so many times. It had the emblems, it had the RPO. Where was the Z28 emblem on the SS?? Where was the Z28's hood and different looks from a base car?? Don't try to say that the IROC did whatever to the Z28 when it was clear that is what the car was. IROC was a new add-on to the Z28 name. When the Z28 was gone the IROC-Z was still an upgraded Z28, that was the only choice. The SS never had anything to do with a Z28 and was made for a different purpose until it was brought back in the 4th Gen all of a sudden to make the Z28 look like a piece by adding "SS" emblems on it and making the Z28 a boring looking base V8.

If they made an IROC-SS, would it still be an SS?? I think so. If they then took away the regular SS and offered only an IROC-SS, would that now mean it's not an SS?? I think not. *DOH*

 

Good point. I stand corrected. I knew the '69s had a huge jump in production, and didn't remember that the '68 numbers were that much greater than the '67s.