What do you think the next gen should cost?


I think:

Base=Under 20k
SS= 25k resonably equipped
Z28=under 30k

Most likely:

Base=20-23k
SS=close to 30K
Z28=mid to high 30's

 

These are the starting prices I'd like to see:

Base - $19,995
S/C V6 - $23,000
Z28 - $26,000
SS - $28,000
ZL1 - $39,000 - (only option being color, just like the Cobra)

 

I just saw a ZL1 on ebay go for 115K Can't have any more Camaro's going for that much

 

Ok, I'll continue to be the thorn in the side when it comes to pricing:

Base: $15,995 stripped, not more than $19,500 loaded
RS (base with entry V8): $19,995, not more than $24,500 loaded
Z28 (good V8, suspension, appearance): $24,995, not more than $29,500 loaded
Superwowie (great V8, more suspension, more appearance): $34,995 one flavor

Converts about $4k more.

I don't know what we call the superwowie, ZL1 may be best. Inverting the SS and Z28 pisses off all the 4th gen owners who bought into the SS thing, so probably not a good idea.

 

DREAM ON GUYS!

Base V6 loaded (this will not be a stripper car) $25K+
Base V8 (Mustang GT competitor) $30K+
Super V8 (Cobra Killer) $40K+

 

Who cares if it pisses off 4th Gen owners?? They still have the top car that was available during their Gen. What about the Z28 owners of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and early 4th Gen?? I think I'd rather cater to those people because there are ALOT more with them then the 4th "SS". You think IROC-Z28 owners are pissed because there is no more IROC-Z?! No, because they have the top car that was available for their time.

IMO:

Base - $20,000
RS Option (with S/Ced V6 or Base V8) - $22,500
SS - $28,500
Z28 - $32,000
Limited ZL1 (maybe)- $40,000

 

I agree. I don't here anyone complaining about getting a new IROC-Z. IMO there should be no ZL1 that was the RPO for the aluminum 427 not a model designation. Just because some after market company produce those ZL1's last year doesn't mean there should be a model designation for it.

 

When this whole SLP/SS debacle started...I asked a GM rep why wouldn't you simply use those pieces to upgrade the Z/28?

His response:" Previous Z/28 owners might be offended if suddenly an improved Z/28 was offered."

Now I ask you......where does logic like that come from?

 

Well, I'll agree with you that that is some rotten reasoning!

However, I think the real reason is that if they just added all the SS equipment to the Z28, your pricepoint for the Z28 was just blown out of the water.

 

Thats true, but if you really think about it a Camaro has always been a little more expensive than the Mustang. The 4th gen's and the SN95's were priced about the same for all models. I personally wouldn't have thought twice about paying the extra 3500 - 4000 grand to have all the good stuff standard on the Z28.
It probably would have cost less than that if it was standard equipment.

 

If they do that, they better get ready for some more lean years. Ford has already hinted at a base of ~18,000 for the next Mustang and has also hinted that they expect pricing to be similar to current models. I wouldn't pay $7,000 MORE for a Camaro - especially on the base car and I'd buy a Corvette instead of a $40K+ "cobra killer" Camaro.

I don't think any camaro (except maybe convertibles) should cross 30K in Today's money. They've got GTO and Corvette on the high end already. Besides, I bought a bullitt mustang for less than your "base camaro".

 

Not necessarily. I can't imagine an 'uplevel' spoiler costs more than the regular plain spoiler. Same with the wheels - how much more do 17"'s cost than 16"s? That leaves the hood. the SS hood is probably expensive - but they could do a better looking one inexpensively. GM is only paying incremental costs - every camaro has these items anyway, but GM prices the package close to what it would cost you to upgrade in the aftermarket (after you bought a Z28 that already includes wheels, a hood and a spoiler).

They managed to keep Z28's stylish for the first 3 generations - I don't know why it became impossible in the 4th gen.

 

Why?! Because the people in there then and maybe even now obviously didn't/don't know what they are doing. This is some more proof right here LOL:



Oh, but calling it "SS" and then disregarding the Z28 almost completly didn't right?! Hello, there was an upgraded Z28 before and it worked great and people loved it, the IROC-Z. I understand that they added the word IROC to Z28 and it was known that it was still a Z28 and that they didn't have something like that this time to add to the name, but all they had to do was call it the Z28 "SLP Appearance and Performance Option," do the upgrades mechanically, on the exterior, add a few chrome SLP emblems, and windshield sticker or whatever, and it would have never caused anything. Probably would have been a good seller too for people that wanted a little more out of their Z28.

 

Actually Chevrolet resently rereleased a ZL1 aluminum big block crate motor in 20,000 limited and numbered castings. Its displacement was 454 ci.

 

The "new" ZL1 aluminum EFI 454 engine is limited to 200 and costs $21,454. It has 510HP@5,750RPM and 493TQ@4,250RPM. That engine is probably 1 of the most expensive out there and costs more than some cars and HEMI crate engines IIRC. I mean it's probably great, but I could build something with more power for alot less than that, including the cost of the car and whatever else.