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Old Jun 14, 2003 | 02:12 AM
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[B]Consequently, You wouldn't believe how many people think my car is a Corvette....
A Corvette?? Those 91-92 Firebirds can look like Corvettes sometimes. I heard people say that before but didn't really think so until an all black GTA came down the street the other day. I was like Doh when it got close!!

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Old Jun 14, 2003 | 07:24 AM
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Of course, these people could be the same that didn't know the Camaro and Firebird were still in production past '92.

I still think it's funny though....I'm like "It's a CAMARO!"

I've never had it called an IROC, but I have seen some for sale like that.
Old Jun 14, 2003 | 07:40 AM
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Thank you.
Old Jun 14, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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I think AWD will be a big new trend.

not just AWD I4s , V6 and V8s too.
Old Jun 15, 2003 | 08:34 AM
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I think AWD will be a big new trend.

not just AWD I4s , V6 and V8s too.
Agreed, for a few reasons:

1) Engines are rapidly reaching or exceeding the limitations of FWD;

2) The OEMs have spent a lot of time convincing folks that RWD cars are deathtraps while in the process of heavily pushing FWD platforms;

3) It's relatively easy to convert a FWD platform with a transverse engine to AWD, compared to developing a fresh RWD platform.
Old Jun 15, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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the only reason i think that the import scene is going to die out in not too long is because they have tried to beat us, and failed. miserably failed time after time after time.

sure, there are a select few that ACTUALLY know what the hell they are doing, but most pop-rivet some side moldings and front fascia to their car and add a fart can = fast?

i just feel like most of them are learning the role of econoboxes, several of them at my school have been converted to American power after a run in or two with me and my Fbody friends.

all it will take is time.

a new breed of V8 power is coming, though, in the name of LS2 and LS7...
Old Jun 15, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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As the saying goes "No Replacement for Displacement!"
Old Jun 15, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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Every automotive trend has flourished because of afew factors.

-Easily attainable. They must be cheap enough new and good enough to buy used.

-Easily modifiable. Cheap parts and a healthy aftermarket.

-Some sort of image...real or percieved.


For these reasons, import tuner 4 cylinders are going to be around for awhile......a long while.
Old Jun 15, 2003 | 11:02 PM
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High reving turbo-charged 4-bangers are great and affordable when new but they are often plagued with problems since Turbo charged vehicles usually have poor reliability since they were often abused and driven very hard.

While agree that 4-bangers will dominate the low-end performance for new vehicles I think larger displacement V8's will be the cars sought after in the used market since V8 are lower reving and tend to have better reliability and are usually cheaper and easier fix then complicated and smaller 4cycl. These V8 cars when brand -new were often out the the price range for many kids but these same kids could afford to buy a used V8 sports car or luxury sedan.
Old Jun 15, 2003 | 11:19 PM
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High reving turbo-charged 4-bangers are great and affordable when new but they are often plagued with problems since Turbo charged vehicles usually have poor reliability since they were often abused and driven very hard.

While agree that 4-bangers will dominate the low-end performance for new vehicles I think larger displacement V8's will be the cars sought after in the used market since V8 are lower reving and tend to have better reliability and are usually cheaper and easier fix then complicated and smaller 4cycl. These V8 cars when brand -new were often out the the price range for many kids but these same kids could afford to buy a used V8 sports car or luxury sedan.
All true. But V8 RWD cars are not very common today.....new or used. LT1 4th gens are probably the most affordable V8 RWD's right now...but relatively speaking are rare. Most 3rd gens and older Mustangs have quite afew miles on them and are getting pretty ratty. Good cheap choices if you're looking for a project....but bad choices for bucks down people looking for reliable transport.

Many who would want to jump on the V8 bandwagon will find other more plentiful and more affordable alternatives.
Old Jun 15, 2003 | 11:58 PM
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The list of used and cheap V8's just from the 1990's (1990-2000) and this doesn't even count all the V8's from the 70's and 80's.

1. Camaro V8's
2. Mustang V8's
3. Vette's
4. Caddy's with Northstar V8's
5. Lexus V8's
6. Infiniti's V8's
7. Mercedes V8's
8. Lincoln V8's
9. Caprice V8's
10. Crown Vic V8's

Of course we have not brought up V8 trucks and SUVs since thats an entire different discussion on its own.
Old Jun 16, 2003 | 12:03 AM
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All those cars have V8's and most are RWD. I don't know how affordable most of those cars would be to younger enthusiasts looking for a 4 banger substitute however.
Old Jun 16, 2003 | 12:12 AM
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While some of those cars wouldnt be for the racers and more for the cruiser kids but Im sure many off those cars could be bought between $5,000- $10,000 over the next few years and especially since the used car market has become so depressed because of huge rebates and 0% financing on new cars.

As a V8's becomes more rare and more of a luxury item in new cars it might make the V8 engine seem almost legendary and might just the fact that a car had a V8 might make the demand for it high in the years to come.
Old Jun 16, 2003 | 12:18 AM
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Check this out- You can buy used 1990-1997 Infniti's V8 Q45's for between $2800-$10000 as we speak @ http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/r...arch_type=used

And that was just few example that were close by here in southern California where imports get a premium.

Here's a ton load of 1990-2000 Caddy V8's that can be had for under $10,000 and this is just in my local area @ http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/r...arch_type=used

The one thing great about used luxury cars is that they are usually driven mildly by older people and they usually have less miles on them then cheaper used commuter cars of the same model year.

Watch the kids start putting 20 inch DUB's on these older/used Luxury sedans and add killer sound systems and they will park at home next to their moms new Scion and all the neighbors will be so confused (as well as all the know-it-all marketing gurus @ the big-3 Auto Corps)

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Old Jun 16, 2003 | 06:51 AM
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Watch the kids start putting 20 inch DUB's on these older/used Luxury sedans and add killer sound systems and they will park at home next to their moms new Scion and all the neighbors will be so confused (as well as all the know-it-all marketing gurus @ the big-3 Auto Corps)
I think that you have seen the future, and that it is weird.



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