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Old Sep 13, 2003 | 01:17 PM
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G6 is NOT going to be the name for the car. Remember,G8 was the concept GP's name. I am 99.9% positive the car is not going to be called the G6. Last I knew, a name had not even been selected yet, but Grand Am was out...
http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayS...=31&docid=1252
Old Sep 13, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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Malibu SS = NO STICK

I also heard, over a year ago, that G6 would have a six speed...but that was when it was going to be the Pontiac performance flagship.

Not sure what the plan is now.
Old Sep 13, 2003 | 03:16 PM
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GTO's only option is a moonroof.
Actually, for the 2004MY GTO, there will be NO open roof option available. No sun/moon roof, no XM radio, no OnStar, no Navigation, no hood scoops or dual exhaust on both ends. I can't wait for the car to show up to drive it, but I can't help to feel as if some of the important options were left out.
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 05:32 AM
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What ever happened to the idea of AWD being an option on the G6, that still being kicked around?
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 09:25 AM
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I think AWD was going to be matched up with the 285 hp engine.
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 09:35 AM
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I also heard, over a year ago, that G6 would have a six speed...but that was when it was going to be the Pontiac performance flagship.
A six-speed what, though? With the new six-speed ATX around the corner, I see the potential for some confusion.
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 09:35 AM
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IF this G6 gets AWD and 285 HP engine, that will be cool. New Mazda6, actually Mazdaspeed6, will have 280 HP and AWD, seems like they would be good competitors.

On the other hand, I am skeptical of 285HP. This is more than current GTP with its 240/260HP. Although I do hope this happens.
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 10:03 AM
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The GTP is still using the Series II 3.8, and the G6 will run the new 3.5 right? I don't follow the V6 engines at all, but it's my understanding GM is moving to the 3.5 as the motor of choice for V6 applications. Are they going to completely phase out the 3.8?

3.8 is a tough motor, takes pretty much anything you throw at it. Hope the 3.5 is just as good.
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by 20 OZ
The GTP is still using the Series II 3.8, and the G6 will run the new 3.5 right?
the GTP is using the series III 3.8 putting out 260 hp. the old GTP's and current MC SCSS uses the series II 3.8
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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The GTP is still using the Series II 3.8, and the G6 will run the new 3.5 right? I don't follow the V6 engines at all, but it's my understanding GM is moving to the 3.5 as the motor of choice for V6 applications. Are they going to completely phase out the 3.8?

3.8 is a tough motor, takes pretty much anything you throw at it. Hope the 3.5 is just as good.
The 2004MY GTP's are using the new Series III 3800 which includes the new features of Electronic Throttle Control and Returnless fuel system. I suspect that it will eventually get phased out, but I believe it'll be around for a while yet.
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by Eric Bryant
A six-speed what, though? With the new six-speed ATX around the corner, I see the potential for some confusion.
Six speed manual.

That was the plan, anyway.....
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 11:09 AM
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I am guessing the G6 will use the Gran Prix's 4T65-E to handle the power..I know the current Grand Am transmission has been holding GM back from giving ot more power?

The SC 3.5L will slowly replace the SC 3800. The 3.9L (a bigger 3.5L, not related to the 3800) will replace the N/A 3800 and make 235-240 HP. I think this is the engine you will be seeing in the Malibu SS, not the SC 3500. It is cheaper for GM and fits in with GM's current stratagy of making Pontiac's the fastest cars on their respective platforms. With the current Accord and Altima making 240 HP, GM would rather match them with the 3.9L Malibu and let the 285 HP G6 take on other competion.

I wonder if there will be a Supercharged 3.9L?
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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The 3.9 being a bigger 3.5, like a 305 was just a smaller 350? IE: Same block, with similar mounting points and everything?
Old Sep 15, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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Sometimes, I wonder if the 3800 will ever die?

I know that the HV V6 is theoritically going to to replace it. And I know it's hard to justify two different pushrod V6 families.....and I know a 60* V6 has some inherent advantages over a 90* V6....but somehow, I feel that the 3800 will be around for awhile longer.
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