STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!
Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!
Originally Posted by redzed
I'm pretty far from convinced that a V6-powered Cadillac STS is worth more than a Chrysler 300C SRT-8.
Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!
Originally Posted by 0toinsanein5.4sec
Although i havent driven ths 300C, its handeling from nearly all reviews i can remember is really pretty bad. I would easily get the STS over the 300C. but if you want straight line performance, get a GTO and have good handling characteristics in addition to power.
Good article on a 3 way shootout with GTO, 300C SRT-8, and CTS-V. Good read.
http://motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0502_trio/
Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!
Originally Posted by redzed
And I suppose that you actually own a "~$70,000" vehicle that's "worth every damned penny?"
Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!
Originally Posted by Z284ever
What are you guys talking about?
6th - BMW
5th - Audi
4th - M-B
3rd - Lexus
2nd - Acura
1st - Infiniti
Caddy, minus the sport suspension finished 7th.
Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!
Originally Posted by poSSum
Road and Track - May 05 - the $55,000 Question
6th - BMW
5th - Audi
4th - M-B
3rd - Lexus
2nd - Acura
1st - Infiniti
Caddy, minus the sport suspension finished 7th.
6th - BMW
5th - Audi
4th - M-B
3rd - Lexus
2nd - Acura
1st - Infiniti
Caddy, minus the sport suspension finished 7th.
Originally Posted by Gold_Rush
The SRT-8 he is talking about isn't that bad a handler. It's biggest downfall is weight though. It's a pig. But it corners well given its size and weight.
"It's a Pig"?

Well, lets see here:
Cadillac STS V8 ($47,025)
196" length, 72.6 width
320 horsepower
6.0 seconds 0-60 mph
4026#
.86g (Car & Driver 8/04)
Chrysler 300C SRT-8 ($39,370)
196.8 length, 74.1 width
425 horsepower
4.9 seconds 0-60 mph
4160#
.90g (Road & Track 3/05)
Higher skidpad?
A mere 134 pounds heavier than the STS?
Sound like it handles a bit better than "not bad".
It doesn't sound like a pig next to the competition either, huh?
Last edited by guionM; Apr 28, 2005 at 05:50 PM.
Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!
Unbelieveable.
Stack the Chrysler pseudo-sorta-well-not-really luxury car with the CTS-V if you must, but if folks don't get the difference between a Cadillac and a Chrysler then there is no helping them whatsoever.
Stack the Chrysler pseudo-sorta-well-not-really luxury car with the CTS-V if you must, but if folks don't get the difference between a Cadillac and a Chrysler then there is no helping them whatsoever.
Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!
Originally Posted by guionM
"Isn't a bad handler"?
"It's a Pig"?
It doesn't sound like a pig next to the competition either, huh?
"It's a Pig"?

It doesn't sound like a pig next to the competition either, huh?

. I used it too when i said "not that bad a handler", but in a different context. For a large sedan, it is very impressive. Not better than the smaller CTS-V, but not far behind either performance wise for a good less $$$.
Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!
Good review Pacer. I like the humor you put into them. Funnier than sheit
However I will say my "sex on wheels" is the C6 Z06 right now...
However I will say my "sex on wheels" is the C6 Z06 right now...
Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!
Originally Posted by guionM
"Isn't a bad handler"?
"It's a Pig"?
Well, lets see here:
Cadillac STS V8 ($47,025)
196" length, 72.6 width
320 horsepower
6.0 seconds 0-60 mph
4026#
.86g (Car & Driver 8/04)
Chrysler 300C SRT-8 ($39,370)
196.8 length, 74.1 width
425 horsepower
4.9 seconds 0-60 mph
4160#
.90g (Road & Track 3/05)
Higher skidpad?
A mere 134 pounds heavier than the STS?
Sound like it handles a bit better than "not bad".
It doesn't sound like a pig next to the competition either, huh?
"It's a Pig"?

Well, lets see here:
Cadillac STS V8 ($47,025)
196" length, 72.6 width
320 horsepower
6.0 seconds 0-60 mph
4026#
.86g (Car & Driver 8/04)
Chrysler 300C SRT-8 ($39,370)
196.8 length, 74.1 width
425 horsepower
4.9 seconds 0-60 mph
4160#
.90g (Road & Track 3/05)
Higher skidpad?
A mere 134 pounds heavier than the STS?
Sound like it handles a bit better than "not bad".
It doesn't sound like a pig next to the competition either, huh?

Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!
Seems like Car & Driver didn't agree with your sentiment at all.
I know, I know... they're biased toward Foreign cars, right?
And you're, uh, not domestically biased in the least, either, right?
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=3
I know, I know... they're biased toward Foreign cars, right?
And you're, uh, not domestically biased in the least, either, right?

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=3
Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!
Originally Posted by guionM
"Isn't a bad handler"?
"It's a Pig"?
Well, lets see here:
Cadillac STS V8 ($47,025)
196" length, 72.6 width
320 horsepower
6.0 seconds 0-60 mph
4026#
.86g (Car & Driver 8/04)
Chrysler 300C SRT-8 ($39,370)
196.8 length, 74.1 width
425 horsepower
4.9 seconds 0-60 mph
4160#
.90g (Road & Track 3/05)
Higher skidpad?
A mere 134 pounds heavier than the STS?
Sound like it handles a bit better than "not bad".
It doesn't sound like a pig next to the competition either, huh?
"It's a Pig"?

Well, lets see here:
Cadillac STS V8 ($47,025)
196" length, 72.6 width
320 horsepower
6.0 seconds 0-60 mph
4026#
.86g (Car & Driver 8/04)
Chrysler 300C SRT-8 ($39,370)
196.8 length, 74.1 width
425 horsepower
4.9 seconds 0-60 mph
4160#
.90g (Road & Track 3/05)
Higher skidpad?
A mere 134 pounds heavier than the STS?
Sound like it handles a bit better than "not bad".
It doesn't sound like a pig next to the competition either, huh?

Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!
Originally Posted by guionM
"Isn't a bad handler"?
"It's a Pig"?
Well, lets see here:
Cadillac STS V8 ($47,025)
196" length, 72.6 width
320 horsepower
6.0 seconds 0-60 mph
4026#
.86g (Car & Driver 8/04)
Chrysler 300C SRT-8 ($39,370)
196.8 length, 74.1 width
425 horsepower
4.9 seconds 0-60 mph
4160#
.90g (Road & Track 3/05)
Higher skidpad?
A mere 134 pounds heavier than the STS?
Sound like it handles a bit better than "not bad".
It doesn't sound like a pig next to the competition either, huh?
"It's a Pig"?

Well, lets see here:
Cadillac STS V8 ($47,025)
196" length, 72.6 width
320 horsepower
6.0 seconds 0-60 mph
4026#
.86g (Car & Driver 8/04)
Chrysler 300C SRT-8 ($39,370)
196.8 length, 74.1 width
425 horsepower
4.9 seconds 0-60 mph
4160#
.90g (Road & Track 3/05)
Higher skidpad?
A mere 134 pounds heavier than the STS?
Sound like it handles a bit better than "not bad".
It doesn't sound like a pig next to the competition either, huh?

The only Cadillac that can come close to the 300C SRT-8 is the STS-V
Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!
Your opinion of the interior is similar to what I thought after sitting in one, except the one I was in just had the base interior.
I'd love to own one, but that won't happen unless GM decides to sell them for less than $10k.
I'd love to own one, but that won't happen unless GM decides to sell them for less than $10k.


