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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by redzed
I'm pretty far from convinced that a V6-powered Cadillac STS is worth more than a Chrysler 300C SRT-8.
Although i havent driven ths 300C, its handeling from nearly all reviews i can remember is really pretty bad. I would easily get the STS over the 300C. but if you want straight line performance, get a GTO and have good handling characteristics in addition to power.
Old Apr 28, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 0toinsanein5.4sec
Although i havent driven ths 300C, its handeling from nearly all reviews i can remember is really pretty bad. I would easily get the STS over the 300C. but if you want straight line performance, get a GTO and have good handling characteristics in addition to power.
The SRT-8 he is talking about isn't that bad a handler. It's biggest downfall is weight though. It's a pig. But it corners well given its size and weight.

Good article on a 3 way shootout with GTO, 300C SRT-8, and CTS-V. Good read.
http://motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0502_trio/
Old Apr 28, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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And I suppose that you actually own a "~$70,000" vehicle that's "worth every damned penny?"
At this rate, and depending on currently proceeding negotiations, I shall answer said question in a matter of two weeks or so.
Old Apr 28, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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What are you guys talking about?
Road and Track - May 05 - the $55,000 Question

6th - BMW
5th - Audi
4th - M-B

3rd - Lexus
2nd - Acura
1st - Infiniti

Caddy, minus the sport suspension finished 7th.
Old Apr 28, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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Road and Track - May 05 - the $55,000 Question

6th - BMW
5th - Audi
4th - M-B

3rd - Lexus
2nd - Acura
1st - Infiniti

Caddy, minus the sport suspension finished 7th.
Utter crap.
Old Apr 28, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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The SRT-8 he is talking about isn't that bad a handler. It's biggest downfall is weight though. It's a pig. But it corners well given its size and weight.
"Isn't a bad handler"?
"It's a Pig"?

Well, lets see here:

Cadillac STS V8 ($47,025)
196" length, 72.6 width
320 horsepower
6.0 seconds 0-60 mph
4026#
.86g (Car & Driver 8/04)



Chrysler 300C SRT-8 ($39,370)
196.8 length, 74.1 width
425 horsepower
4.9 seconds 0-60 mph
4160#
.90g (Road & Track 3/05)

Higher skidpad?
A mere 134 pounds heavier than the STS?

Sound like it handles a bit better than "not bad".

It doesn't sound like a pig next to the competition either, huh?

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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Unbelieveable.

Stack the Chrysler pseudo-sorta-well-not-really luxury car with the CTS-V if you must, but if folks don't get the difference between a Cadillac and a Chrysler then there is no helping them whatsoever.
Old Apr 28, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
"Isn't a bad handler"?
"It's a Pig"?

It doesn't sound like a pig next to the competition either, huh?
"bad" and "horrible" were the words some here were using to describe the 300. I used it too when i said "not that bad a handler", but in a different context. For a large sedan, it is very impressive. Not better than the smaller CTS-V, but not far behind either performance wise for a good less $$$.
Old Apr 28, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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Good review Pacer. I like the humor you put into them. Funnier than sheit

However I will say my "sex on wheels" is the C6 Z06 right now...
Old Apr 28, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!

Originally Posted by guionM
"Isn't a bad handler"?
"It's a Pig"?

Well, lets see here:

Cadillac STS V8 ($47,025)
196" length, 72.6 width
320 horsepower
6.0 seconds 0-60 mph
4026#
.86g (Car & Driver 8/04)



Chrysler 300C SRT-8 ($39,370)
196.8 length, 74.1 width
425 horsepower
4.9 seconds 0-60 mph
4160#
.90g (Road & Track 3/05)

Higher skidpad?
A mere 134 pounds heavier than the STS?

Sound like it handles a bit better than "not bad".

It doesn't sound like a pig next to the competition either, huh?
well, when i said the 300C was a bad handler (i didnt know about the SRT8 so i used the next closest thing.) That much of a weight difference doesnt make that much of difference (compared to if it was 1000 lbs+ difference) I know the 300C is supposed to have very soft and mushy suspension and that is what makes it such a bad handler. if they firmed up the suspension it probably wouldnt be so bad.
Old May 6, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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Seems like Car & Driver didn't agree with your sentiment at all.

I know, I know... they're biased toward Foreign cars, right?

And you're, uh, not domestically biased in the least, either, right?

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=3
Old May 6, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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Hilarious Good read
Old May 6, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!

Originally Posted by guionM
"Isn't a bad handler"?
"It's a Pig"?

Well, lets see here:

Cadillac STS V8 ($47,025)
196" length, 72.6 width
320 horsepower
6.0 seconds 0-60 mph
4026#
.86g (Car & Driver 8/04)



Chrysler 300C SRT-8 ($39,370)
196.8 length, 74.1 width
425 horsepower
4.9 seconds 0-60 mph
4160#
.90g (Road & Track 3/05)

Higher skidpad?
A mere 134 pounds heavier than the STS?

Sound like it handles a bit better than "not bad".

It doesn't sound like a pig next to the competition either, huh?
skidpad numbers dont detirmine how agile a car is in different direction turns. skidpad numbers detirmine a cars ability to hold the road in one steady direction and certain speeds. they do have some influence on each other but is detirmined a lot by how good its tires are.
Old May 6, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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Re: STS test drive report - EAT HOT DEATH, KRAUT BOYS!!!

Originally Posted by guionM
"Isn't a bad handler"?
"It's a Pig"?

Well, lets see here:

Cadillac STS V8 ($47,025)
196" length, 72.6 width
320 horsepower
6.0 seconds 0-60 mph
4026#
.86g (Car & Driver 8/04)



Chrysler 300C SRT-8 ($39,370)
196.8 length, 74.1 width
425 horsepower
4.9 seconds 0-60 mph
4160#
.90g (Road & Track 3/05)

Higher skidpad?
A mere 134 pounds heavier than the STS?

Sound like it handles a bit better than "not bad".

It doesn't sound like a pig next to the competition either, huh?
I don't think it's fair to compare the STS V8 with the Chrysler 300C SRT-8.

The only Cadillac that can come close to the 300C SRT-8 is the STS-V
Old May 6, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Your opinion of the interior is similar to what I thought after sitting in one, except the one I was in just had the base interior. I'd love to own one, but that won't happen unless GM decides to sell them for less than $10k.



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