Some things to ponder.
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Re: Some things to ponder.
Originally Posted by notgetleft
No **** sherlock. They're not forgotten? Imagine that. I was wondering how i remembered them. Ask average people on the street when did the hemi first come out and i guarantee that 99 out of 100 think it was in the hemi-cuda or some other famous mopar.
And i'm supposed to be impressed by a 14 second ET out of such a LEGENDARY motor as the HEMI? Like i said, the average V6 sedan will suck the doors clean off that truck and while the 300C and charger aren't as pathetic, they're still going to barely walk an average V6 sedan.
That kind of (lack of) performance is only going to water down the legend. How many kids are going to be in awe of the hemi when their friends with SRT4s, cobalt SS's and other econo-box rockets can take one down with ease. The average hemi car is going to be stock it's entire life and is piloted by a non-gear head. This is a SHARP contrast to the 426 hemi cars, which as i already stated were relatively rare and faster then just about everything on the street.
One more time for the slow people, an analogy. A 1970 nova SS 350 is no match for a hemi-cuda, even with a couple light mods. OTOH. a stock 2005 cobalt SS or SRT4 will smoke the hemi trucks, and are as fast as the non SRT hemi cars. And dollar for dollar on mods, the lightweight FI cars will suck the doors off a base hemi car and get you into SRT8 range.
And i'm supposed to be impressed by a 14 second ET out of such a LEGENDARY motor as the HEMI? Like i said, the average V6 sedan will suck the doors clean off that truck and while the 300C and charger aren't as pathetic, they're still going to barely walk an average V6 sedan.
That kind of (lack of) performance is only going to water down the legend. How many kids are going to be in awe of the hemi when their friends with SRT4s, cobalt SS's and other econo-box rockets can take one down with ease. The average hemi car is going to be stock it's entire life and is piloted by a non-gear head. This is a SHARP contrast to the 426 hemi cars, which as i already stated were relatively rare and faster then just about everything on the street.
One more time for the slow people, an analogy. A 1970 nova SS 350 is no match for a hemi-cuda, even with a couple light mods. OTOH. a stock 2005 cobalt SS or SRT4 will smoke the hemi trucks, and are as fast as the non SRT hemi cars. And dollar for dollar on mods, the lightweight FI cars will suck the doors off a base hemi car and get you into SRT8 range.
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Re: Some things to ponder.
Originally Posted by falchulk
14 second Trucks pathetic? They kick the crap out of most cars on the road today. I dont even know why I respond to stuff like this.
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Re: Some things to ponder.
Originally Posted by notgetleft
You respond because you're hoping someone will back you up that a 14.9 second truck is somehow supposed to be impressive in a world of V6 sedans with ~250hp that run mid 14s at almost 100mph.
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Re: Some things to ponder.
Originally Posted by falchulk
Drive a standard cab Ram and see how many stop light races you lose. Dont bench race. If you still feel that there are sooo many fast family sedans on the road, you win.
I've had a couple try to play with the goat. People that buy those trucks are apparently as deluded as you are about their capabilities. I love sand bagging them and letting them get a length on me, and then getting on it through second to give them a nice chirp into third as i blow past them. I've had better races vs. nissan altimas and the like. Last time i sand bagged on one of them, we had to shut down before i reeled it back in.
btw, my friend has an extended cab hemi truck, and i have drove it. Color me unimpressed.
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Re: Some things to ponder.
Originally Posted by Gloveperson
And a Honda Odyssey is fast for a minivan.
The fact is that the amount of 14 second vehicles that you see on te drive home is realitively small. Most vehicles are in the 16 to 17 second range.
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Re: Some things to ponder.
Originally Posted by notgetleft
I've had a couple try to play with the goat. People that buy those trucks are apparently as deluded as you are about their capabilities. I love sand bagging them and letting them get a length on me, and then getting on it through second to give them a nice chirp into third as i blow past them. I've had better races vs. nissan altimas and the like. Last time i sand bagged on one of them, we had to shut down before i reeled it back in.
btw, my friend has an extended cab hemi truck, and i have drove it. Color me unimpressed.
btw, my friend has an extended cab hemi truck, and i have drove it. Color me unimpressed.
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Re: Some things to ponder.
Originally Posted by falchulk
I am willing to bet I have owned a lot more tucks and cars then you I think my point of reference is a little bigger. Just a hunch
Most cars might run 16s to 17s. Nobody was talking about 'most cars'. I think if you read my previous posts, you'll see i am refering to the plethora of ~250hp V6 sedans on the road today. If you take pride in jumping on the weakest cars on the road, then i guess the ram is your truck. If you want to have a chance against V6 altimas, acuras and lexus, i'd look elsewhere or at least go for the holeshot.
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Re: Some things to ponder.
Originally Posted by notgetleft
WTF does the number of cars you've owned have to do with anything that's happened in this thread so far?
Most cars might run 16s to 17s. Nobody was talking about 'most cars'. I think if you read my previous posts, you'll see i am refering to the plethora of ~250hp V6 sedans on the road today. If you take pride in jumping on the weakest cars on the road, then i guess the ram is your truck. If you want to have a chance against V6 altimas, acuras and lexus, i'd look elsewhere or at least go for the holeshot.
Most cars might run 16s to 17s. Nobody was talking about 'most cars'. I think if you read my previous posts, you'll see i am refering to the plethora of ~250hp V6 sedans on the road today. If you take pride in jumping on the weakest cars on the road, then i guess the ram is your truck. If you want to have a chance against V6 altimas, acuras and lexus, i'd look elsewhere or at least go for the holeshot.
The most common config QC SB is a mid 15 truck, plain and simple. And it will get smoked by a Toyota Avalon/Nissan Altima/Honda Accord....
http://www.dodgetrucks.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24342
All the TD truck sites think the Hemi Ram is funnest truck to pick on, even the Cummins guys love smoking Hemis.
Now the Hemi cars are decent, but what you say is true, the turbo Neon and the SC Cobalt will easily mod beyond a stock 300C. But so what? Everyone knows these cars weigh 2 tons. They're big fast cars and there's nothing this side of an E55 that's comparable. I don't think a low14/high 13 big car is a downer in any way.
Now the Ram guys, they DO need to quit thinking their trucks are fast.
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