just some random thougts here as I wait for another software program to do it's job:

1.) Weight is your emeny. Ask any racer, engineer, fitness trainer. Weight not only slows you down, increase feul consumption, increases the amount of raw material to make the car, it effects handling dynamics. Weight = bad.

2.) I appreciate those of you who have a wife, a mistress, 3 kids and a dog on the side, but you are not what coupe are made for. It's great you want one to do all that, but coupes should be stylish first functional secondly. Now, I'm not saying it can't be, the quad door idea on a GTO or Monte has merit. It's just IMO, they add unessesary cut lines in the body and have so far (Ion and RX-8) create blocky rear quarter windows that look more in place on a sedan than a swoopy coupe.

Remember a few years ago when coupes were called 'lifestyle cars'? As idiotic as that sounded, and really it was pretty idiotic, that's what they are. The lifestyle is single people with a girlfried/boyfriend or mistress who only use the back seat for gym bags, groceries and our drunk friends.

 

So Camaros (coupes) should only be for single people that maybe have a girlfriend or maybe not, depends if they want to save wait in the car when driving around town; and people with families should not look at Camaros (coupes) because they might need the back seat.

solstice and corvette and sky are for those types of people who don't need back seats. Why else would they be put in there??? To add weight? To look pretty?

Why are you more liberal on giving the GTO or monte quad coupe doors and not the Camaro? I know we are on a heavily Camaro biased site but come on. The 4th Gen tried to be what you want, a corvette with barely usable back seats, real long slung, swoopy design. It didn't work! The ponycar was intended for people who wanted to be able to have a small, sporty coupe, with enough room for there small family or a couple of friends to ride along. Not just for the enthusiast who wants to race.

 

Just my personal position the Camaro should still be the 'Poor Man's 'Vette', especially now that the 'Vette has evolved into a sophisticated and refined package.

I'm more liberal to giving the GTO and Monte extra doors because I don't think the market that shops those cars are looking for a canyon carver, but sporty cars with a stylish image for the boulevard but more utility than a sportscar (i.e. Camaro).

Yes, quad doors seem to work on the RX-8, but I really do not like the vertical styling of the b-pillar area. Plus, quad doors don't make the rear seats any more usefull, nessesarily (IMO), the rear seats of an RX-8 are still really tight for adults and kids.

 

I hope the right people at GM are reading this.

 

I've always hated that term. It almost makes it sound like the Camaro is the loser's consolation prize. Besides, I know lots of rich men who own Camaros.

 

Whenever I hear someone say the word lifestyle I think homosexual for some reason. That word no longer belongs to straight people

 

I think the same thing.

 

Same here. How did quad doors break into this thread though?

 

Huh? Can you say homophobic?

 

I don't think the new stang is too big. But i sure wouldn't mind a camaro that's a tad bit smaller.

I really liked the sn95's. Not too big, not too small. In the end, weight figures were good (under 3300lbs for GT), and the proportions were right on. It didn't have the overhangs of the 4th gen camaro or 05 stangs. So i think the sn95's is the car the 5th gen should shoot for as far as overall length and weight is concerned. Could you imagine a 400hp Ls2 in a sleek under 3,3XXlbs body?? that'd be amazing.

 

I can't speak for him, but if you are somehow insinuating that homosexuals bother me you are mistaken. I have heard this phrase far too many times referring to gay lifestyles to not make the connection though.

 

That would be fantasic. As it stands though, that is pure fantasy.

 

That would suit me just fine.

And I'm assuming you meant 3,2xx lbs, right?

 

What's wrong with a similar sized car but with a lower roofline?

 

That would be a good compromise, as 3200 lbs is not that light, but it is not lard *** either. Ford did get their 99-04 GTs to around that weight, with heavy iron block and all (I know, I know, they didn't have to pass new crash regulations, but even if it ended up weighing in around the current fbody I would be pleased.)

On another note, it has been hinted at strongly that the new Camaro will be MacPherson struts up front and an independent rear, but what kind of suspension would the rear likely get? Struts as well?