damn holden for not making thew wheel wells larger. I would have liked to seen 275's on the GTO stock. 315's should be able to fit under the car with no rubbing.

GM, if you are reading, Make sure 315's can fit with no rubbing.

 

Put yer times in your sig. That'll help your end of the debate.

You have times right?

 

Ahhh, a fellow Aurora owner, NICE!

I know what I ran with my Z when it was stock. Unfortunately, due to the seasons, I have not yet been able to obtain times on the GTO yet. That will be soon enough though.

However, I remember when the Z28 was stock. It never felt as strong as my particular GTO. Now against a later '01/'02 F-Body, that may be different. But having both cars sitting in the driveway next to one another, I can say stock for stock, the GTO is quicker and I bet the E.T. when I run it will show it.

I also have tangled with a modded '01 SS one morning on the way to work. He and I pulled over after running and chatted for a little while. Anyway, the race was a stalemate, door to door, up to about 125 when we shut down. I also raced two later model Z28's and split them 50/50. One was a stalemate, the other beat me by about a fender or so.

I will admit though, that I've been drag racing for years and know how to drive a little more than most too. I admit that even though the SS and I knew we were gonna go for it, I took him hard off the line.

All in all, I would hardly call it a slouch or underpowered. It is a solid mid 13 second car. To me, despite it's heft, added comfort, and superior quality, would classify it as underpowered as per Chris's85Z28. So far, against some pretty formidable competition, it's held it's own.

 

Nope. The stock clutch wouldn't last one pass with my current power output.

What exactly is the debate I'm engaged in?

 

RSX runs 16's/high 15's. Type-S runs low 15's. Integra Type-R ran 14's, but with much less weight. RSX gained a few pounds.

 

I believe you believe that tuner 4 cylinder FI cars can run with the big V8 crowd.

I happen to agree.

 

The car will be run and I promise you times eventually. The car made 305 AWHP with a faulty boost controller on pump gas. I was pegging anywhere from 19.1-20.6 PSI without any steady boost.

The old boost controller is getting torn out and a set of 264 HKS cams are going in. I'm aiming for 340 WHP @ 21.5 PSI on pump and 370+ @ 24 PSI on C16.

I'm going to let the stock clutch go on its own and will run it when I get the aftermarket unit in.

 

I am not a hardcore racer like you guys but I wold like to know one thing. When is it enough? I can't see having a car with over 500+ hp being ok in most situations. For one the mods seem pretty expensive and also doesn't the premium gas make you want to shy away from Giant Cams and Monster Boost? I am just curious to when is a car fast enough. At what speed will you be satisfied. I have a slow car by most definitions here, a mid 15 stock 97 monte carlo. Yet everytime I hit the gas and take it up to 7K RPM I am perfectly pleased with the fun to be had there. I guess I am just clueless, wouldn't be the 1st time.

<==me

 

I happen to disagree. Anything someone can do to a midget motor, I can do to a big one - AND get more return for it.

Blowers? Heh.

Turbos? Ask Meany.

Nitrous? How big a shot would you like?

He's in roughly a 170rwhp hole naturally aspirated. With the shot I DOUBLE his hp at the wheels.

SEEYALATERBYE.

Displacement is your friend.

 

Welp, race the thing at a track and your perspective may change.

Speed is relative anyway. I have a Buell motorcycle now (XB12R), which isn't anywhere near as fast as the liter-class rice rockets, but it's fast enough for me. Meanwhile, I want 9's out of my car.

Go figure.

 

On an unrelated note, how do you like your Buell?

I really want a Lightning XB9S.

 

My car suits my needs perfectly. I should be able to throw some race gas in the car, take it to the track, trap at nearly 120 MPH and make some high 11-second passes on street tires. These cars take much less WHP to trap high due to their gearing and moderate weight. An inexpensive 50 trim T04E setup will net me in the 425WHP range and net me 3-4 MPH more in trap speed.

If I want a whole lot more, I'm driving the wrong car. I'd own an LS1 or an '03/'04 Cobra. Or an older fox body. Or a GN. etc.

Displacement is always king but that doesn't mean I won't be faster than 99% of the other cars on the road (Not that I condone nor do I engage in street racing).

 

Terrific bike - razor sharp handling. Perfect for all kinds of hooligan antics if you swing that way (stoppies, wheelies, burn-outs, etc...) - but I'm too conservative on a bike for that stuff. It'll brake your eyeballs out with one finger on the lever.

I put Lightning pegs on mine since they're 1" lower and I'm kind of a big guy. Might get the 1" higher handlebars later.

I'd consider getting the XB12S if I were you. The 1200cc motor is yummy. You might regret it later if you don't.

Wifey has a Buell Blast. Believe it or not, it's a nifty machine too - terrific commuter or begineer bike. You just think "lean left" and it's already there.

 

I'm a beginner and I want something to cruise in (If I want to drive fast, I'll stick with cars ). My only real experience is with a few dirt bikes and 3-wheelers as a youth.

I've always had a love for the styling of the Buells and the big V-Twins but wasn't interested in owning a Harley.

Thanks for the endorsement. Maybe I'll look into one and just take it really easy (And be prepared to drop it a few times).

 

You're gonna need a $6K iron truck shortblock before you go dumping any serious boost or N2O on that LS1. Otherwise it's engine go boom time at the track.

There's an economical factor to factory engineered boosted motors. Compression ratio, forged rotating assembly, over-engineered block, fuel system, computer tunability...

Nope, you can't just do whatever the SRT or Evo or Cobra owner does, because you gotta throw 3x money at it.