It is pretty disappointing, much like the Silverado SS. Im not quite sure of GM's too-little-too-late strategy aside from the Vette, but evidently there's a bean counter somewhere that thinks its a good idea. Hopefully that changes as the American Revolution continues.

 

I WISH GM WOULD STOP MAKING THESE POS CARS I just really hate 4 cyls, there dumping money into this car that is crap. it hits the red line before peak power how dumb is that. I don`t care how fast these little 4 bangers are I will never be imperessed by them I don`t care if it puts out 400hp it still a 4cyl.

They stop making the Camaros and Firebirds and we get this GM stops making an american icon and builds a honda fighter. I`m a die hard GM fan but it`s getting harder everyday the Mopar camp is looking better and better

If GM built a 5th gen do you think it would hit the limiter before peak power.....NO do you think it would turn like a plow.....NO do you think it would eat all these damn 4 bangers alive YES!!!

The sad part is I`ll get flammed for this but here it goes I HATE THE SRT-4 and the SATURN RED LINE. god forbid I make fun of a crappy 4 banger on a Z28 board. I will aways be in the Z28 camp showin these so called fast 4 bangers how it`s done with a good old CHEVY V8

 

If there's a market for em, GM oughta go ahead and offer a 4-banger like this. However, I wish they actually competed at least with the other offerings. It's lame to come out with this Redline and Cobalt SS that will get dropkicked by the SRT-4. WTF. Same thing as someone else mentioned with the slowass Silverado SS that doesn't even compete with the Lightning or SRT10 Ram. Stupid GM...

 

 

Now.....how do you feel about V6's?

I am guessing you have never driven a halway decent 4 cylinder.
Bet you that you'd be grining ear to ear after a ldrive in an SRT-4.

Hey, I like V8s too but I won't curse GM for making a 4 cylinder car.

GM cannot sit back and do nothing in such a popular market segment, and chastising them for participating is ridiculous.

This is more then a Z28 board and I think most people here support GMs effort to do new things.
I am pretty sure the Camaro will be back and then they will have
some fast cars to cover the market.

 

nah, i don't see that happening for a number of reasons.

 

I'm all for some high powered forced induction 4's coming from GM. I think they should've put the S/C 3800 in the v6 camaros too.

I'd love for them to come out with some 4's with some serious potential for going fast.

I have no idea if this car will end up having REAL potential or not, but its interesting to say the least. It seemed to be making decent power all the way to redline and was still building.


Just an interesting thought. A stock DSM runs a 15 flat and makes less than 197hp to the wheels stock.


Jacki's brothers car

 

I don't suppose AWD had anything to do with that, eh?

 

Welllyou coudl put the internals form a GTP motor into a v6 f-body(been done) and run normal f-body supercharger instead of a roots style one(doesn't fit under cowl with ease) and have a supercharged f-body


Either way, this thing is not gonna compete with SRt-4... It runs 15s and wieghs 2900 lbs?

Why did they design the supercharged 4 banger, and not just put a fwd v6 in there and run the same numbers?

ehh... hopefully a turbo kit isn't hard....


This thing better at least be cheap as hell like $16-18k.... well below the SRT-4

 

maybe a little something

he dynoed his car at 378whp. that was at 19psi and hes running 23 now. so ~400whp I'd say.

I'm kinda curious how I'm going to make out when I go to the track this spring. This FWD stuff is ridiculously hard to launch. I've got it down now on the street, but I know its going to be considerably different at a track.

 

197 to the wheels is pretty good considering its rated at 205 at the crank. I'll wait till I see one with a pully and exhaust run the 1/4 to decide.

 

It'll be interesting. I bet at least one of the times you launch you will wheelhop bad enough to turn on the windshield wipers. At least that's what I did on my first run at the track

 

yep centrigugal... I should have also specified 4th gen f-bodies, you can easily stick a roots style blower on other gens...


WEight distribution maybe, but gas mileage... I have a fealing a 3400 v6 will get better gas mileage then a blown ecotec.

 

I was just toying around with this website... it was right on when I put in the numbers for my car, so I think its pretty accurate.
http://www.fbody.com/calc.htm
According to that the Cobalt should easily be into the 13's if it is the same weight as the Cavalier it's replacing.

 

I don`t mind V6`s and a S/C 3800 would be cool in a F-body.

The thing is GM gave up on the F-bodys, and they ate most other cars alive. What I hate is GM is turning into rice. If we still had the F-body then I wouldn`t care if they built a 4 cyl S/C econo box. Do you really think we`d be talkin about a damn 4 banger if we had a 5th gen I doubt it. The F-bodys ruled I`m sure if we had a 03 Z28 or SS it would`ve killed the Cobra.

Look at what Mopar has the Viper, the new Magum and the Ram SRT-10 500 hp in a TRUCK

Ford has the Cobra the new mustang look really cool (and thats big comin from me since I hate rustangs) and the new GT 500 and there bringin a new Shellby Cobra out

Chevy we have the Corvette thats it everything else sucks, Pontiac has the GTO thats cool but under powered. and we have to wait for the new 500hp Z06 till next year. GM was the leader in performance then bam there pussyfied and now that GM can`t make a car if there life depended on it (exept the Vette) ford and Dodge have takin the performance market and running away with it. Maybe GM`s performance died because John Moss retired.

So GM PLEASE BRING THE F-BODYS BACK!!!! . GM has proved they CAN`T buld a performance FWD 4 cyl. What do I say about that THANK GOD. So they NEED to go back to what they do best BIG V8`s in RWD platforms with 6 spd`s. AKA the F-BODY.