pshhhht! I've done it on the street! managed it 2x now. These tires seem to grip really well. Still a pain to launch though. I'm going to get motormounts/window weld or something before I take it, wheelhop scares me

 

I see better now where you are coming from.

I still think the rush to judgement on the Redline should be delayed until we get more reviews and numbers. NOt sure how much I trust Sport compact.

If its 197hp to the wheels it shoud be in the 14's. Someone mentioned that the times were close to a Grand Am GT---and they are (off by 0.5sec or so) and the Grand Am weighs a few hundred pounds heavier, is an auto and makes only 175hp crank.

Given these facts it is hard to imagine why the Redline is in the 15's

Thing about GM is they are still very much of a conservative company. I believe they are doing better then Dodge and Ford.

Which is part of the reason why Dodge and Ford put out some pretty wild cars. They are desperate to draw attention to themselves. (and sales)

The GM performance division is still pretty young, so I wouldn't write them off just yet.

The Cavalier was so old it had to be replaced so its not like they had to build a whole new car when doing the SS Supercharged--just treak it up a few nothces.

 

They were spot-on with the SRT-4. Even named it car of the year, so I see no reason not to trust them.

 

I could see not trusting them with review a RWD V8 pony car....but man, they are reviewing a compact sports car, i hope they know what they are talking about there.

 

geeze you guys are trusting! Want to buy some ocean front property in the desert??

I like a concensus and view Sport Compact as a rather extremist and biased (towards imports) car magazine.

but hey.....whatever

 

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What the hell are you smoking? The turbo 2.4 was deemed reliable enough for police use, and I can't think of anyone harder on vehicles than them.
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They also had a bunch of police Taurus's with the 3.8 in it. Those motors are junk.

 

...but they still named the SRT-4, an American car as car of the year

 

first off as a non flame, if your gonna bash a car for how slow it is, you for damn sure need to have a car thats atleast as fast as the cars you are bashing.

now POS cars? how many people are dying to get a LG4 3rd gen? o yeah, none. how many people were dying to buy a 4th gen? 20k. 20 thousand. thats between TWO different makes, and EIGHT models! they could only sell 20 THOUSAND!!! obviously these cars didnt sell for a reason.

whats that reason? GM focused too much on performance. sure it fits our needs and thats why we own them. i would KILL to have a better interior, better rear end, better transmission. i would KILL to have a car that the paint doesnt look like i sand blasted the car. i would KILL to have a car thats slightly slower yet is higher quality. why? because i paid for something and didnt get my moneys worth thats why. GM has to make these "POS" cars because they sell well. if they didnt have these then there would be no vette, no gto, no future 385hp silverado ss. there wouldnt be performance. these are the bread and butter cars. these are the cars gm relies on to be money makers so they CAN appeal to the enthusiasts.

you may not ever be impressed by a 400hp 4 cylinder but other less close minded people are. hell im liking the new acuras that are making LT1 numbers with 2 less cylinders, worlds no GALAXIES better interiors and overall quality. what about 4 cylinders running with the hallowed 4th gen cars? dont even look at what these new "POS" cars would do to a 3rd gen in a straight line or even in the corners. cuz it wouldnt be pretty. and they have a warranty and good gas mileage as well as better reliability to boot.

whats wrong with GM joining a car market that is VERY VERY VERY popular? the sport compact market is BOOMING.the 2+2 V8 powered RWD market however was not. its starting to come back but not very fast. GM stopped producing the fbody because it had to. if you do a search in the 5th gen forum you will get PLENTY of answers to why it was stopped and when its coming back as well as how it will look.

so you keep "showin those 4 bangers how its done" with your mighty LG4. then wait till the day they actually race WITH you or you run across an import thats actually a performance model and not a parked econobox.

 

It's not! I know they got it to run a 15.1 and blamed it on the gearing ( could very well be) BUT Cavaliers running naturally aspirated ECO's are running 15's... this car is deffinetly in the 14 second range atleast.

 

so you keep "showin those 4 bangers how its done" with your mighty LG4. then wait till the day they actually race WITH you or you run across an import thats actually a performance model and not a parked econobox.


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You know whats funny? this guy goes around preching about close-minedness, the thowsa fit everytime someone says they don't like 4-cycl's or imports. Two things man,one its a free country and people have the right to say what they want with out you herasing them about it. Two if you don't like the anti-import sentemit ontheboard then leave. I don't go to a honda site, and start talking trash the complain when they don't agree with me. As for the lg4 a.ka 305 I run imports all day long, and bury them. Now the ralley cars ie: wrx's evloutions stuff like that, well to be truthful I bat about .500. Other than that I'm pretty happy with my 305, alot more than others So don't rag on the 305, it just the 350 little bro, thats all.

 

He was just pointing out how hilarious it is that a person who owns a car that runs a blistering 16 second quarter mile stock is bashing on 4 cylinders that would eat it alive.

 

A 305 lover and 4 cyl import lover battleing it out over which is better.. Kind of ironic. .

 

I have too reply to this.

Well lets see I have takin a Acura RSX V-tech I put buses on that car.

Just to let you see where my Zed is in the power range I took out a 85 or so noch back Mustang 5L 5 spd.

If my frame wasn`t broke at the time I almost beat a 87+ 5L 5spd I had to let off because thre was traffic but I was catching him fast

I beat a 86 Z28 like he was standing still 305 auto

So your Damn str8 I`m gonna make fun of the SRT-4 why because I will ALWAYS stand behind the CHEVY V8

Oh and if you want to give me the $5000 I need to finish my 450hp 383 then we`ll see how much ***** a SRT-4 has

I will keep showin the 4 bangers how it`s done with my lil LG4

 

Sorry but headers and a mild cam does not equal enough perfromance to beat the cars you have listed.

A stock LG4 is pretty bad (1982 with the 4 speed were a joke)--the 5 speed and 3.23s helps but not enough to take a lighter, 225hp Mustang.

Good luck with the 383 swap--that will do wonders.

Just noticed you are from Welland. Nice place. I was out at a car show there in Oct. Met up with a guy who had a black Formula 350 (orginal owner, 70K, a few mods, sweet car)

 

Wow your car is so fast 5 thousand dollars in the future!

Oh and that RSX wasn't racing, those are high 14 second cars bone stock.