Who cares if a modded GT500 can take out a Z06 when you drop lots of mods into it.

A camaro can take out a GT500 with lots of mods also.

A mustang GT can take out a camaro with mods too.

Whats the big deal

The Z06 is something that the GT500 will never be.

So what if the GT500 can be as fast as the Z06 in the quarter mile after dropping $10, 000 worth of mods into it.

Take em both to a race track and watch the GT500 get wasted in the twisties, no matter how powerful it is.

These cars are in different classes.

Its pointless comparing them.

By the way,
who would cross shop a 4 seater mustang with a 2 seater corvette?

 

I think some people were making the point that the newer Cobras are capable in the turns as well.

But I'm in the "let's wait and see what happens" camp

 

Keep the optimizim! No one knows what they were testing on those runs, etc. I have seen a Ford GT run 12.0 in Car and Driver, does that mean thats what they run? Heck NO! Conditions, driver, track prep, yada, yada...we all know the factors. The Z WILL be in the 11's. The GT IS in the 11's. While I NEVER said the Z will be faster than the GT, it will be close. Close enough that its better braking, near perfect weight distribution and lighter weight could make for a very interesting comparison. My predictions: GT takes 1/4 mile and top speed; Z06 takes braking, 0-100-0mph (C6 was close to this in a recent test), and track times could go either way. Depending on how much each respective car wins over the other in each category will determine the winner, well and throw in price maybe. It will be worth reading and regardless of the winner, will strike a cord with the Europeans!






I'm comprehending, I'm with ya, dont worry.

Agree for the most part, but I thought it was phrased in this thread that the Cobra's will be doing this on stock tires, which will be a difficult task.

Keep in mind that you are talking about a pretty serious pulley, not your standard slightly smaller pulley. If the Cobra runs low 12's then it will take some good boost to knock off over a second. Yes, the car will be completely streetable, and high 10's possible with tires.

I think it is hard to say that the new Cobra will be "significantly" faster than the old one. I say this because we all know the old Cobras were underated and closer to about 425hp. If the GT500 has 500hp and is accuratley rated, then it will be a 75hp improvment, BUT a 200lb weight addition. This would still net an improvement, but pehaps not "significant". Now with DR's, the solid axle provides more room for improvment.

I frequent SVTperformance and know about all there is to know about the GT500 as of now. The KEY will be if the car is underated like the 03-04' Cobras or accurately rated like the 05 Mustang GT. If the Cobra follows the new SAE horsepower certification then we will know for sure!


Approximately 300lb weight advantage to the Z, plus some aero help, brings the 100hp difference down some. Now throw in gearing and it is possibly two cars with these differences could be close. Will it be true for the new Z and GT, I hope so, but I dont know. Remember that numerous rags have run the GT in the 11.5-11.8 range with trap speeds under 130mph. Can the mags get the Z there, I just dont know.....

Do you really think the comparison will be ridiculous? You have seen the Z's Nurburgring lap times. You know the C5 Z's stopping distances and even the performance of the C6. Perhaps you are confident that the GT will win, and I wouldn't bet against you, but it will not be ridiculous. It will be a worthy comparo, you wait and see.

 

Lets make this simple by removing one variable.

What will Stock GT500 vs Stock Z06 be like? No mods. That will answer your question.

 

Bingo!
This doesn't even take into account a projected near-$30k price difference.
S.

 

A little extra twist to throw into this discussion....the new SAE standards for HP ratings seem to make it more difficult for manufacturers to overrate them...the new STS-V was initially underrated by GM by 29 HP...chances are whatever the Cobra makes, it will be a pretty true representation. So, if we're talking a rating of 450 HP, it's probably going to be 450 HP...not, say, 500+ HP like people speculate will be the real truth.

 

Thats if Ford chooses to be in compliance with them, because as far as I know, it is voluntary. I would think it would look pretty bad for a manufactuter to not want to be verified though.