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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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Re: Pontiac will cut '05 GTO production by 30%.

Originally Posted by PacerX
Since you obviously don't understand the law, I'd suggest you do some reading next time before you go taking pot-shots at the 51% of the United States who told the lefties here to "go to hell".
That 51% also told the moderates, independants, capitalists, anti-1984's, rational thinkers, non-racist, and Liberty lovers to "go to hell" too

...wait wasn't this thread about the GTO? anyways the key to these "non practical" 2 doors cars seems to be price. The next GTO is going to need a base V8 car with a sticker under $30,000. Wasn't the GTO part of the reason Pontiac got rid of the Grand Prix coupe?

The Zeta GTO/Grand Prix line up needs to got like this
- Grand Prix GT = 3.5L HV
- GP coupe GT = 3.5L HV
- GP Sedan GTP = S/C 3.5L
- GP coupe GTP = S/C 3.5L
- GP Sedan GXP = 5.3L LS4 (350HP)
- GTO = LS4 (350HP) under $30K
- GTO judge/GXP = LS2/L92 400HP+

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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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Re: Pontiac will cut '05 GTO production by 30%.

I am pretty sure that the Pontiac Zeta will get the 3.9 as base. 5.3 as optional, as well as the LS2.
Old Nov 24, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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Re: Pontiac will cut '05 GTO production by 30%.

Originally Posted by Z28x
That 51% also told the moderates, independants, capitalists, anti-1984's, rational thinkers, non-racist, and Liberty lovers to "go to hell" too
I voted for Dubya. Does that make me something other than "moderate"? Do I have to vote for Kerry to be considered "independent"? How am I now not a "capitalist"? I cannot "think rationally" because I voted for the Republican? And somehow, someway, I don't love "liberty"?

Talk about stereotypes.

BTW...what is "anti-1984". Ya lost me on that one.

...wait wasn't this thread about the GTO?
Ya, I already put in my nickel on that one.
Old Nov 24, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Re: Pontiac will cut '05 GTO production by 30%.

Originally Posted by Z28x
...wait wasn't this thread about the GTO? [/b]
Thank You Nice ideas . It would also be quite nice if the 3.6 VVT in varing power levels was the Zeta V6 across the board . The 6 banger Zeta coupes will have some pretty established popular competition in the Solara and Accord . I know their both FWD cars , but in that particular 6 cyl segment , I really dont see RWD as main priority . Features , build quality and most important ...style , I would think drive that segment the most . Just a thought .

Jason - My point wasnt that he deserved the comments posted , my point was that he is more likely than not getting off on them . Redzed never really used to be a problem around here , until people really started slingin it back . He knows how to push the buttons , and everyone is responding in exactly the manner in wish I think he wants them to . Therefore when you say he was asking for it , he sure was .....and he got it . One thing Ive learned over the years on these boards is bore the trolls to death they almost always just fade away , but let them see day to day how much they **** you off and they just do exactly that they eventually cross the line and get banned .
Old Nov 24, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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Re: Pontiac will cut '05 GTO production by 30%.

Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
I voted for Dubya. Does that make me something other than "moderate"? Do I have to vote for Kerry to be considered "independent"? How am I now not a "capitalist"? I cannot "think rationally" because I voted for the Republican? And somehow, someway, I don't love "liberty"?

Talk about stereotypes.

BTW...what is "anti-1984". Ya lost me on that one.
Those are just some groups that get hurt by the current Gov't. Nothing against republicans, Republicans aren't just black or white, they have many shades of gray. They range from neo-**** bible thumpers to the moderate anit big gov't/ let the public/markets decide republicans, some are even a little liberal . Just because one agrees more with the republican ideas doesn't they do or should follow the party blindly. You got to look out for that wolf in sheeps clothing so to speak.

1984 refers to a book famous book by George Orwell in which the Gov't is out of control and monitors every aspect of your life, they watch you at home and everywere you go and punish you if you say/think/talk against them. In the past few years our Gov't has been getting farther and farther away from the Washington/Jefferson/Franklin form of Gov't and closer to the 1984 style. *cough*patriotAct*cough*,*cough*FCCcensorship*coug h*..


90 Z28SS, one nice thing about a Zeta platform is that since is is going to be so spread out, many engines will be certified for it. Hopfully that will lead to a lot of nice special edition GTOs, Camaros(or chevy coupe), and Gran Prixs.
Old Nov 24, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Re: Pontiac will cut '05 GTO production by 30%.

Hmmm....well I guess we'll disagree on some of our political leanings, but in deference to the Forum in which we are posting, I'll leave it at that.
Old Nov 24, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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Re: Pontiac will cut '05 GTO production by 30%.

Originally Posted by redzed
That's because the GTO has really small wheelwells. The problem is that the platform dates back over a decade, when no one envisioned todays monster tire sizes.

The tiny wheelwells are why you can still bottom out a GTO. It's a fundimental design element, so there's no fix until Zeta.
that's just plain incorrect. the australian monaro gets 18s, the HSV version gets 19s and low-volume maker CSV runs on 21s. the issue isn't with the arches (though there is some stuff that needs to be fiddled around the front suspension to get 19s running).
the problem is with a fiddly detroit rule about tyres (aspect ratio or something odd? help me out, guy)
that's straight from the guys who engineered the car.
the wheel and tyre package for the whole of the US was compromised by a stupid local Michigan law.
Old Nov 24, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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Re: Pontiac will cut '05 GTO production by 30%.

Originally Posted by redzed
Australia is a bit like a less-openminded/more racist version of Canada, with brutal speed enforcement thrown into the mix.
you know this how?
this view is at odds with most of the polls of american tourists who have ACTUALLY set foot in the joint
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