WHO CARES... I don't want On Star and I never will. Keep it off my 5th Gen or I'll rip it out. Stabilitrak on all vehicles... yay... an industry first. Is On Star standard on Corvettes? I wanna know the percentage of Corvette buyers who selected On Star as an option.

 

Also, redzed, I find it interesting that you are laughing at GM for not having stability control across the board on it's SUV's YET, even though it's coming... and praise Honda... even though Element does not have it...

Yet, you "supposedly" purchased a Nissan Armada, that doesn't have stability control even available. EDIT: Found a sort-of-stability control the Armada page, but they don't list it under safety features...

Hmmmm.... useless, non-factual redzed rant? I think so.

Hey, got any pictures of "your" Armada yet? Somehow I think we'll never see them.

 

Maybe the Element doesn't count as a SUV (Sport Utility Vehicle) but as a SUV (Strange Ugly Vehicle).

 

Camera lenses break every time someone attempts to take a picture of a Nissan truck or SUV.

 

Yey for Onstar! Now I will have some useless buttons in my car unless I pay $17/mo.

 

too late compared to who??? no one else offers stability contral/ABS/Tracion control and Onstar on every vehicle in every price range.

I think it is a great move and will help get RWD back into the mainstream. Onstar is great, but like others have said, I one day fear about the Big Brother effect and don't want Onstar taking control of my 2025 drive-by-wire Camaro SS.

 

...and GM won't offer "stability contral/ABS/Tracion control and Onstar on every vehicle in every price range" until 2010. That isn't very impressive.

 

It's going to be on most by 2007.

Again, name another manufacturer who even have a PLAN to do this?

You make a total fool of yourself.

 

2010 is only 4 model years away and that is the date for the very last model, probably next Gen Aveo. all SUVs by 2007, like Darth said, you are making a fool of your self, no other Manufactorer is doing this, I guess you must be just that much more unimpressed with Nissan and Honda.

 

NOT TRUE!


WRONG AGAIN!

 

Actually, stability control will be offered across the board on most makes before 2010. Let's keep in mind that we're talking about a feature that was "state of the art" in 1995 and has been standard equipment on BMWs and Mercedes for the better part of a decade. GM's move isn't ground breaking, it's just another example of playing catch-up.

All GM has done so far is make stability control standard on full-sized SUVs, something that Toyota did 5 years ago.

 

BMWs are Mercedes are a lot different that $9995 Aveos, hope I don't need to explain why the $50,000 Mercedes had the feature first.

 

Oh. My. God.

PLEASE tell me what other full-line manufacturer offers all this across the board, right now, or has announced a plan to do so before 2010.

BMW and Mercedes are not full line manufacturers. They are luxury marques. You would EXPECT them to have stability control on $35k+ models that are barely any bigger than a Honda Civic.

As a comparision, All Cadillacs have Stabilitrak available right now.

Does Ford, Diamler/Chrysler, Honda, Toyota.... the almighty Nissan... have it across the board?!?! NO!!!! They do NOT!!!

 

Theres some serious ownage going on in this thread

I think its a good move for GM. I would never use Onstar if I bought a new GM vehicle but its good to see stabitrak standard in everything from an aveo to an XLR-V. I also believe the Onstar worries are simply that, just worries. If Onstar was used in a way other than it was intended, I guarantee you there will be a thousand blood thirsty lawyers lined up ready to fight it.

 

Actually, you can get stability control on every VW. It's standard equipment in Europe and in the U.S. they charge $325 - which is just about manufacturer cost. Similarly, most of the European makes are either making stability control standard or a cheap option. We're not talking about BMW and Mercedes, but Renault, Peugeot and (shockingly) even Fiat.

BMW and Mercedes have offered stability control as STANDARD equipment for years, even on sub-$30K models. I'm still burning from when Cadillac made CTS buyers fork over $7K extra to get Stabilitrak.



By 2010, I wouldn't be surprised if stability control isn't offered across the board by an upstart Chinese manufacturer. GM has taken the slow and greedy course when it comes to Stabilitrak. When it premiered in 1997, they were only behind by a year or so behind Mercedes.