Not too sure about the Velite as the basis for the 5th gen.
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Re: Not too sure about the Velite as the basis for the 5th gen.
Originally Posted by morb|d
...the long wheelbase and the big gurth seem to be the forerunners already and the car's not even confirmed yet. fun.
There was an article in Autoweek in which I think it was Rick Baldick or one of the other execs was asked about a Mustang competitor, and he stated "We're working on it".
I'll look it up and post it when I have time.
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Re: Not too sure about the Velite as the basis for the 5th gen.
Originally Posted by Morginie
I dont see any problems with a wide short car, with lots of back seat room. The cramped interior is one of the 4th gens problems. Also if its shorter and wider (like the 05 vette) it will handle a whole lot better (like the 05 vette).
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Re: Not too sure about the Velite as the basis for the 5th gen.
Originally Posted by 1fastdog
"05 'vette is NOT wider than C5.
C5...
Overall length (in / mm) 179.7 / 4566
Overall width (in / mm) 73.6 / 1869 (40.95% of overall length)
C6...
Overall length (in / mm): 174.6 / 4435
Overall width (in / mm): 72.6 / 1844 (41.58% of overall length)
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Re: Not too sure about the Velite as the basis for the 5th gen.
Originally Posted by Meccadeth
C6...
Overall length (in / mm): 174.6 / 4435
Overall length (in / mm): 174.6 / 4435
Holy Sh!tsky!!!!!!!
That's smaller than a sports compact! How do they expect the C6 to have any "PRESENCE"?
Someone call Dave Hill....they need to add 2 feet of overall length to the Corvette before it fails miserably!
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Re: Not too sure about the Velite as the basis for the 5th gen.
Corvette is also a two-seater .
Camaro is a four-seater .
Big difference as far as overall size goes and feeling "small" or "cramped" for what the car is.... or even it's feeling of "presence".
Camaro is a four-seater .
Big difference as far as overall size goes and feeling "small" or "cramped" for what the car is.... or even it's feeling of "presence".
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Re: Not too sure about the Velite as the basis for the 5th gen.
Originally Posted by Darth Xed
Corvette is also a two-seater .
Camaro is a four-seater .
Big difference as far as overall size goes and feeling "small" or "cramped" for what the car is.... or even it's feeling of "presence".
Camaro is a four-seater .
Big difference as far as overall size goes and feeling "small" or "cramped" for what the car is.... or even it's feeling of "presence".
Why should it feel cramped?
You can easily get the interior space of a 3rd/4th gen, in a package with modern, smaller exterior proprtions.
And yes....it can have "presence".
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Re: Not too sure about the Velite as the basis for the 5th gen.
Originally Posted by Z284ever
Why should it feel cramped?
You can easily get the interior space of a 3rd/4th gen, in a package with modern, smaller exterior proprtions.
And yes....it can have "presence".
You can easily get the interior space of a 3rd/4th gen, in a package with modern, smaller exterior proprtions.
And yes....it can have "presence".
Bah, I'm really bored 
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Re: Not too sure about the Velite as the basis for the 5th gen.
Originally Posted by Z284ever
Why should it feel cramped?
You can easily get the interior space of a 3rd/4th gen, in a package with modern, smaller exterior proprtions.
And yes....it can have "presence".
You can easily get the interior space of a 3rd/4th gen, in a package with modern, smaller exterior proprtions.
And yes....it can have "presence".
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Re: Not too sure about the Velite as the basis for the 5th gen.
Originally Posted by Darth Xed
I really don't want a sport compact....
I don't want a sport compact either. But I don't know what the attraction is, to getting a sport compact sized interior on a full sized car.
Is this what you consider "presence"?
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Re: Not too sure about the Velite as the basis for the 5th gen.
Originally Posted by Z284ever
Somewhere between the size of a Civic and the size of a full sized sedan...there is a WHOLE segment. A segment that encompasses cars with RWD, 2+2 seating and no need for over 7 1/2 feet of total front and rear overhangs. Camaro should be part of this segment.
I don't want a sport compact either. But I don't know what the attraction is, to getting a sport compact sized interior on a full sized car.
Is this what you consider "presence"?
I don't want a sport compact either. But I don't know what the attraction is, to getting a sport compact sized interior on a full sized car.
Is this what you consider "presence"?
No... to me, "presence" is being large enough on the exterior to be intimidating when seen... 3rd and 4th Gen cars had that.
I do not disagree that the overhands need to be shortened... considerably... but that can be achieved with a longer wheelbase rather than choppin gthe length and size of the car.
I few inches? I can deal with that, but let's not go nuts.
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Re: Not too sure about the Velite as the basis for the 5th gen.
The only Camaros I ever felt were too big overall were later 2nd Gens and the 4th Gens. I feel all the others had ideal sizes and weights.
I am for a 185"-190" 5th Gen. A 72.5" width would be nice. A wheelbase of about 106" and 50" from the street to the roof sounds right for a Camaro.
I am for a 185"-190" 5th Gen. A 72.5" width would be nice. A wheelbase of about 106" and 50" from the street to the roof sounds right for a Camaro.
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Re: Not too sure about the Velite as the basis for the 5th gen.
Originally Posted by IZ28
The only Camaros I ever felt were too big overall were later 2nd Gens and the 4th Gens. I feel all the others had ideal sizes and weights.
I am for a 185"-190" 5th Gen. A 72.5" width would be nice. A wheelbase of about 106" and 50" from the street to the roof sounds right for a Camaro.
I am for a 185"-190" 5th Gen. A 72.5" width would be nice. A wheelbase of about 106" and 50" from the street to the roof sounds right for a Camaro.
2002 Camaro:
Wheelbase: 101.1"
Length: 193.5"
Width: 74.1"
Height: 51.2"
1992 Camaro:
Wheelbase: 101.0"
Length: 192.6"
Width: 72.4"
Height: 50.4"
So, the only dimension that is even potentially noticable to be different between a typical 3rd Gen and typical 4th Gen is the width, which is just shy of 1 3/4" in difference. Every other dimension is under one single inch.... but, yes, obviously... GM screwed up royally with the size of the 4th Gen. :blah: