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Old Aug 30, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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Re: New Bird

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I still see no reason why the Bird can't come back on a Vette chassis,just Call it a T/A

Would cost be a reason? what did 2k2 Ws6's sticker for?
overlap? serious?

someone please tell me
A 2002 WS.6 stickered for low ~ mid 30s. The new Vette stickers for high 40s ~ low 50s. No way in hell are they going to bring it in on the Vette Chassis, and sell it for $15,000 ~ 20,000 less. It would deflate the "value" of the Vette.
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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Re: New Bird

Originally Posted by Kris93/95Z28
A 2002 WS.6 stickered for low ~ mid 30s. The new Vette stickers for high 40s ~ low 50s. No way in hell are they going to bring it in on the Vette Chassis, and sell it for $15,000 ~ 20,000 less. It would deflate the "value" of the Vette.
Maybe they should make the Firebird more pricey, and give Pontiac a real halo car that more than camaroz28.com can aspire to. The Corvette already shares its platform with the XLR, and it may be more expensive than the vette, but it shows the that GM is willing to use this platform on other cars. Besides, back when the 4th gen was being terminated, didn't GM look at the Corvette chassis initially to see if they could build an f-body off of it?
Old Sep 1, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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Re: New Bird

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Maybe they should make the Firebird more pricey, and give Pontiac a real halo car that more than camaroz28.com can aspire to. The Corvette already shares its platform with the XLR, and it may be more expensive than the vette, but it shows the that GM is willing to use this platform on other cars. Besides, back when the 4th gen was being terminated, didn't GM look at the Corvette chassis initially to see if they could build an f-body off of it?

this is what I believe... Make the Trans Am around 40k. maybe with a 5.3 and a LS2 in the WS6?
Old Sep 1, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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I see several problems with this. First, everyone is already bitching about paying $33K for a GTO, which is Pontiacs CURRENT halo car! Do you honestly think that people will step up to buy a $40K Firebird? Secondly, between the GTO & the Solstice Pontiac really doesn't need the Firebird. Third, GM will never allow a Pontiac Corvette to be built. Delorean tried that & got shut down. And Cadillac is a special case. It's always been allowed to play by it's own rules. Fourth, there is that whole brand differentiation policy. Everyone is already complaining that too many Pontiacs are just rebadged Chevy's! Wouldn't Firebird contribute to that perception? IF you could make a case for the Fierbird it would have to slot between the GTO & Solstice in both size & price & be different enough from the G6 that it wouldn't be competing with it for the same buyers! And I don't think that being RWD will be enough of a difference to justify it. Pretty tall order wouldn't you say?
Old Sep 1, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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Re: New Bird

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I see several problems with this. First, everyone is already bitching about paying $33K for a GTO, which is Pontiacs CURRENT halo car! Do you honestly think that people will step up to buy a $40K Firebird? Secondly, between the GTO & the Solstice Pontiac really doesn't need the Firebird. Third, GM will never allow a Pontiac Corvette to be built. Delorean tried that & got shut down. And Cadillac is a special case. It's always been allowed to play by it's own rules. Fourth, there is that whole brand differentiation policy. Everyone is already complaining that too many Pontiacs are just rebadged Chevy's! Wouldn't Firebird contribute to that perception? IF you could make a case for the Fierbird it would have to slot between the GTO & Solstice in both size & price & be different enough from the G6 that it wouldn't be competing with it for the same buyers! And I don't think that being RWD will be enough of a difference to justify it. Pretty tall order wouldn't you say?
I think Firebird fans would, I'm not saying mass production here, maybe around the same #'s as the Solstice/Gto 18-20k

Well, gm should has listened to Delorean.

I don't think Ppl would complain about Vette Chassis overlap, just Minivan, Economy car.

to hell witht he GTO being the Halo car.
Old Sep 2, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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Re: New Bird

Originally Posted by Maximum Bob
I see several problems with this. First, everyone is already bitching about paying $33K for a GTO, which is Pontiacs CURRENT halo car! Do you honestly think that people will step up to buy a $40K Firebird? Secondly, between the GTO & the Solstice Pontiac really doesn't need the Firebird. Third, GM will never allow a Pontiac Corvette to be built. Delorean tried that & got shut down. And Cadillac is a special case. It's always been allowed to play by it's own rules. Fourth, there is that whole brand differentiation policy. Everyone is already complaining that too many Pontiacs are just rebadged Chevy's! Wouldn't Firebird contribute to that perception? IF you could make a case for the Fierbird it would have to slot between the GTO & Solstice in both size & price & be different enough from the G6 that it wouldn't be competing with it for the same buyers! And I don't think that being RWD will be enough of a difference to justify it. Pretty tall order wouldn't you say?
The GTO is not a halo car that currently inspires a whole lotof passion from the public. I think that they could bring outa $40k car, if the content was good. It doesn't need to sell in numbers, just get people into the dealership. Personally though, I myself wouldn't go this route, I would just either drastically changes the GTO's exterior demeanor, or replace it with something more inspiring if/when GTO gets the axe. Not saying that has to be a Firebird, but I can see no real reason why it could not work as a halo car again.
Old Sep 2, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Re: New Bird

Agreed ^^^^^^
Old Sep 2, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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You can't have a halo car that is a "sleeper."
Old Sep 3, 2005 | 02:41 AM
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Re: New Bird

Originally Posted by HAZ-Matt
You can't have a halo car that is a "sleeper."
corvette is kinda... well... its not in ur face...
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