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02-06-2010, 11:32 AM
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02-06-2010, 11:35 AM
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One other thing to add...
I'd imagine the ROI for Alpha could be pretty sweet if the ATS, Camaro and CTS are built on one assembly line. Much better than the current cost structure of Zeta 2 and Sigma individually at two seperate plants.
I'd imagine the ROI for Alpha could be pretty sweet if the ATS, Camaro and CTS are built on one assembly line. Much better than the current cost structure of Zeta 2 and Sigma individually at two seperate plants.
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02-06-2010, 03:21 PM
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Please don't confuse aggressive with ricey! 
The more I look at BMWs, Mercs and Audis, the more I'm inclined to believe their respective small car range looks more nice and cute than aggressive...
PS I hope Motor Trend aren't reading your posts and assuming that Alpha will be spread across the GM brands...
02-06-2010, 03:55 PM
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Name some! Please don't confuse aggressive with ricey!
The more I look at BMWs, Mercs and Audis, the more I'm inclined to believe their respective small car range looks more nice and cute than aggressive...
PS I hope Motor Trend aren't reading your posts and assuming that Alpha will be spread across the GM brands...
Please don't confuse aggressive with ricey! The more I look at BMWs, Mercs and Audis, the more I'm inclined to believe their respective small car range looks more nice and cute than aggressive...
PS I hope Motor Trend aren't reading your posts and assuming that Alpha will be spread across the GM brands...
Audi S3
Ford Focus RS
Subaru Imprezza WRX (last gen)
02-06-2010, 03:59 PM
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Meh! They aren't even in the same 'legend' status as the Camaro. Anyways, they would pass through traffic virtually unnoticed.
The question you need to ask is this: Would Brad Pitt be seen in any of the cars you mentioned?
My gut feel says no! 
The question you need to ask is this: Would Brad Pitt be seen in any of the cars you mentioned?
My gut feel says no!
02-06-2010, 04:04 PM
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IMO if Brad Pitt were in Germany he may choose an S3 or Opel OPC, depending on his needs at the time.
But you are changing the argument. You asked for examples of aggressively styled compact cars. Now you want cars that stop traffic. IMO very few cars do that. The Audi A5 is at the top of my list for that along with more rare cars like the GT-R or something like a Lambo. A Camaro doesn't stop traffic IMO.
02-06-2010, 04:09 PM
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But you are changing the argument. You asked for examples of aggressively styled compact cars. Now you want cars that stop traffic. IMO very few cars do that. The Audi A5 is at the top of my list for that along with more rare cars like the GT-R or something like a Lambo. A Camaro doesn't stop traffic IMO.
I just put up a slightly humorous connotation to my response, that's all!
02-06-2010, 04:14 PM
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Name some! Please don't confuse aggressive with ricey!
The more I look at BMWs, Mercs and Audis, the more I'm inclined to believe their respective small car range looks more nice and cute than aggressive...
PS I hope Motor Trend aren't reading your posts and assuming that Alpha will be spread across the GM brands...
Please don't confuse aggressive with ricey! The more I look at BMWs, Mercs and Audis, the more I'm inclined to believe their respective small car range looks more nice and cute than aggressive...
PS I hope Motor Trend aren't reading your posts and assuming that Alpha will be spread across the GM brands...
Ferrari - any. I'm particularly fond of the 430 Scuderia and new 458 Italia though.
Audi - S4, S5.
BMW - M3, 335i, 135i.
Mercedes Benz - C63, SLR.
Z06, ZR1, G37, GTR, etc., etc...........
02-06-2010, 04:21 PM
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02-06-2010, 04:27 PM
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M3 is more "iron fist in a velvet glove"! but not necessarily aggressive if you ignore the lump in the hood - it could be mistaken for just a stylish two door. The 1-series is cute. How could you say aggressive with those bug eyes?
I'm not saying it can't be done, all I'm saying is that it's harder to make it smaller (proportions remember - you cannot compare Camaro's footprint against any Ferrari) while making it look as aggressive as the 5G.
Btw, if I'm to take the article literally, I think it's great news. I often don't buy the argument that certain platforms are too expensive for Chevrolet as there are some expensive and high performance Chevrolets that need the best platforms... just as Cadillac do. Camaro could certainly get away with using more exotic materials in its hi-po versions.
02-06-2010, 04:28 PM
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02-06-2010, 04:31 PM
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02-06-2010, 04:31 PM
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Anyway, I think I've answered you post so we don't need to prolong the argument. Camaro is definitely more 'aggressive' than any of your examples.
02-06-2010, 04:36 PM
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Proportion and stance is the key here. How do you retain that and make Camaro smaller while also making the car look as aggressive as the 5G? This is clearly the point I want to get across.
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