That's what I'm thinking as well. My estimate is about $24 - $26. I'm also thinking that base Solstice will be lucky if it's below $22K.

When does it go on sale, fall as 2006 model?

 

Pontiac's website says "around $20,000".

 

Based on what? Even WITH the LSD, the Cobalt barely has an edge on lateral grip and transitions, but is way outgunned in the power department. On the straights and sweepers it would get decimated.

With the same magazine testing in the 1/4 mile, there's nearly a 5mph difference and half a second. That's not a slight power difference, that's night and day.

 

You use words that are inappropriate. "clobbered" "way outgunned" and "decimated"?

Hardly.

I think the Cobalt SS will give the SRT-4 a good run for it's money. You are obviously biased by your purchase decision. You have a SRT-4 and you haven't even raced a Cobalt SS yet, but you have already decided that you will clobber them and decimate them. Why don't you look at the facts.

The Cobalt looks that it will easily be a competitor with the SRT-4. Don't let your bias sway your comments.

Dan

 

I hope it does get "decimated". That would mean that one out of ten times it would loose! Pretty good odds if you ask me!

 

Well, just going by the 1/4 mile numbers, it's painfully obvious that there's a large power disparity. A half second and nearly 5mph isn't a small difference by any stretch of the imagination. Go run a 99-04 Mustang GT against an LS-1 F-body, cars which share about the same difference in ET/Trap speed. Then tell me it's not a huge difference in power.

You're right; I haven't. Motor Trend got numbers that I've only been able to best by .1. Ceteris Paribus, I will beat a Cobalt in real life just like the magazine did.

 

I think we're all missing an important point...Even though it is ~$2000 more than SRT-4, Cobalt comes out of the gate with an important advantage...

Its not a neon...

 

Make it $800 USD.

Or, $2200 USD LESS than SRT-4 in Canada.

 

The standard loaded cobalt is only $800 more than SRT-4 , go see for yourself at KBB.com

Big red Jim - As I said before , you cant base all your smack of 1 friggen magazine time . Theres been a few road test in magazines where the neon has ran 13.9 all the way up to 14.5 's . Your holy SRT-4 may have a "slight" power advantage , but its hardly a runaway like you would like to believe . And thats all Im gonna say till I see the 2 together on a road course or drag strip . Where power is gonna be a biggie , but so will gear ratios , final drive and the gearbox , weight ect ect ect. To many varibles .

 

By the "stats" i dont think the srt-4 will out perform the Cobalt SS in an auto X course. A road corse would depend on the layout of the track...

 

I agree .

 

Nearly 5mph additional trap speed is a runaway. Period. Same magazine tested in controlled conditions. The only way you can really compare them.

 

The only real way to compare them is to run them both on the same day in the same conditions with the same driver that has never been in either car given the same amout of time to learn each car before the offcial data is collected.

The second way is over time with a average of each car tested by multiple mags multiple times with many differnt drivers and conditions. The cobalt hasnt had this happen yet so we cant use this one witch is not as good as the first way I listed.

 

On the subject of traps, I think the SRT-4 will prove to be the faster of the two....simply based off its 220+fwhp dyno's and 240+fwtq. It definitly has the SS outgunned in the power/tq department, that's for sure. Guess we'll know the real difference soon enough anyways.

 

The article quoted has SS at 98.2 mph. I have yet to see SRT run more than 101. So where is the 5 mph from?