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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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Re: M/T gets 14.5@98.2 with Cobalt SS

98 MPH trap is awesome.

You can almost forsee that minor Bolt ons (exhaust, intake, blower pulley, tuning, sticky tires, et al) are going to have the cars solidly into the low 13s possibly high 12s.
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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Now, who was saying that the car would not out handle a RSX?

AWD still isnt as good as RWD for drag racing. Once you put slicks or some really sticky drag radials on a car the advantage goes back to RWD. AWD cars dont weight transfer well.
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Turbo SS
Now, who was saying that the car would not out handle a RSX?
that was steve2002 in the other thread

MT #'s for the 200HP RSX Type-S for comparison

Acceleration, 0-60 mph, sec 7.20
Quarter-mile, sec/mph 15.16/93.24
Braking, 60-0 mph (feet) 134
600-ft slalom, mph 63.92
Skidpad, g 0.82

MT got 0.86g with the 350Z

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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Re: M/T gets 14.5@98.2 with Cobalt SS

I bet you the rsx is making 50 less average HP. Thats what happens when you make 200 hp for one millionth of a second at 50,000 RPMs

Are the cobalt SS's on dealer lots yet?
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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Damn , I think this car will be just a lil bit popular

If M/T got a 14.5 out of it , the definately more there . I doubt it will out accelerate a SRT-4 , but thats about all you can say about comparing the 2 . Nice job chevy , now get all your new cars this right
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MunchE
Keep in mind the FWD cars trap higher than RWD cars running similar ET's, since it's harder to get a good takeoff with FWD. That's why you see the SRT-4s running traps of over 100 but still sitting in the low 14's. I'd say the stock LT1 cars have nothing to worry about from the Cobalt.
Well, you are correct up to a point, but it is most likely irrevalent for these two cars.

FWD can get the same 60' times as our LT1's in stock form. You don't see many street tire LT1's getting better than a 1.9 60' time. FWD are capable of 1.9 60' times also on street tires. I doubt that MT even got a 1.9 out of the Cobalt SS or a LT1.

Your arguement is valid if the cars were trying to cut 1.8-1.6 60' times because of the weight transfer issue, but on the street, they can both hook fairly well on street tires. By the looks of the trap speed and E.T., the 60' was about 2.1-2.2 seconds.

Just for reference, when stock, my LT1 went 14.4@98 mph with a 2.2 60' in hot humid weather. That is right there with the Cobalt.

Also, the trap speed normally goes UP with a nice launch, contrary to popular belief. A bad launch doesn't cause the trap speed to get better.

Just my $0.02.

Dan

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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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Re: M/T gets 14.5@98.2 with Cobalt SS

That is kickass!

Other than the god awful wing, I really like that car.
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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700 plus HP and 270 hp cobalts!

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh...ow/index4.html

Cylinder heads for Cobalt!

http://sites.reachtheworld.tv/waterN...05240&DID=1225

Didnt LPE make 1100hp with a boosted ecotec motor?
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Turbo SS
Are the cobalt SS's on dealer lots yet?
I don't know. There was some sort of sheet metal problem with the Cobalt coupes a couple of weeks back, mostly SS's and that caused a delay in delivery. I don't know if deliveries are back to normal or if the delay is still in effect.

Some good numbes.
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by stereomandan
Well, you are correct up to a point, but it is most likely irrevalent for these two cars.

FWD can get the same 60' times as our LT1's in stock form. You don't see many street tire LT1's getting better than a 1.9 60' time. FWD are capable of 1.9 60' times also on street tires. I doubt that MT even got a 1.9 out of the Cobalt SS or a LT1.

Your arguement is valid if the cars were trying to cut 1.8-1.6 60' times because of the weight transfer issue, but on the street, they can both hook fairly well on street tires. By the looks of the trap speed and E.T., the 60' was about 2.1-2.2 seconds.

Just for reference, when stock, my LT1 went 14.4@98 mph with a 2.2 60' in hot humid weather. That is right there with the Cobalt.

Also, the trap speed normally goes UP with a nice launch, contrary to popular belief. A bad launch doesn't cause the trap speed to get better.

Just my $0.02.

Dan
My LT1 did 14.18 with a 2.08 60' on regular tires, trapping at like 97 or so. I'm not saying a bad launch is going to make the trap speed go up, just that the trap speed will stay the same while the car loses something at the line. And vice versa. That's why AWD cars will get such low trap speeds for their ET's (like the WRXs running high 13s/low 14s at 94-95mph) and the FWD cars usually trap a bit higher than you'd think from the ET. When I saw SRT-4s running at the strip, they were running low 14s, this one looks like it'll be a couple of .10s slower.

Nice ride, price is still too high, but I imagine they'll add in rebates to add "value" later. It'd look so much better if GM just said "Chevy Cobalt, outhandles an SRT-4 and almost as fast in a straight line, $19,995!"

As it stands now it's starting at more expensive than the SRT-4 and $1,500 shy of the RSX-S. The whole "High price - rebate" game really doesn't look good for GM, in my opinion.
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 11:00 PM
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Luckily in Canada--the Cobalt SS is cheaper then the SRT-4
Old Jan 2, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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I really like the SS, just wish i could afford to get one. It's good to see the camaro replacement essentially doing well. By replacement I mean affordable performance before you jump all over me.
Old Jan 2, 2005 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MunchE
As it stands now it's starting at more expensive than the SRT-4 and $1,500 shy of the RSX-S. The whole "High price - rebate" game really doesn't look good for GM, in my opinion.
Its base price is a whole $800 more than a SRT-4 , for a thru and thru better car . The Cobalt will prove its worth on its own as it didnt really look to shortchange anywhere . Though Im absolutely positive the GM haters will nit pick it to its absolute death because its not under $20K . Even though going just off that article ( I did read the entire article ) , it appears to be the best handling , 2nd qwikest and most appealing sport compact on the market

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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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Re: M/T gets 14.5@98.2 with Cobalt SS

Originally Posted by MunchE
Nice ride, price is still too high, but I imagine they'll add in rebates to add "value" later. It'd look so much better if GM just said "Chevy Cobalt, outhandles an SRT-4 and almost as fast in a straight line, $19,995!"

As it stands now it's starting at more expensive than the SRT-4 and $1,500 shy of the RSX-S. The whole "High price - rebate" game really doesn't look good for GM, in my opinion.
It is only $50 more than an SRT-4, and you get a lot more car for the money, how is that overpriced?????
Old Jan 2, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Re: M/T gets 14.5@98.2 with Cobalt SS

The biggest surprise to me were the Pirelli's.... I'm used to the general putting out hot cars and slapping some crappy all season Goodyears on 'em

Anyhow, that's a pretty kick *** little car and should quite well; too bad it's a bit too small for me.



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