It's Official: 2011 Ford Mustang GT has 5.0-liter V8
12-18-2009, 04:12 PM
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Still down on torque quite a bit from Camaro SS. I'll be curious to see what the torque curve is like.
Is that 25 mpg combined? If so, that's a 4 MPG jump over the 2010 Mustang and 6 more than the 2010 Camaro SS (manuals). I'm guessing it probably is combined as why brag about a highway number that's down 1 from your current car?
Is that 25 mpg combined? If so, that's a 4 MPG jump over the 2010 Mustang and 6 more than the 2010 Camaro SS (manuals). I'm guessing it probably is combined as why brag about a highway number that's down 1 from your current car?
12-18-2009, 04:24 PM
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Ford does make a 6.2L and it puts out 411hp
Chevy has never made a 5.3L tuned for a RWD car. The 303HP unit was in a FWD and there is only so much power those transmissions can take.
Camaro SS will still likely be faster. In the MotorTrend comparison Camaro SS was only 1/10th behind a GT500 in the 1/4mi. I highly doubt the Mustang GT is going to be faster than the GT500.
Chevy has never made a 5.3L tuned for a RWD car. The 303HP unit was in a FWD and there is only so much power those transmissions can take.
Camaro SS will still likely be faster. In the MotorTrend comparison Camaro SS was only 1/10th behind a GT500 in the 1/4mi. I highly doubt the Mustang GT is going to be faster than the GT500.
As for the Camaro SS vs the 5.0L GT, it should be close enough to be a drivers race. GT should have the slight advantage...at least on paper. We'll find out soon enough. And the GT500's have serious traction issues from the looks of it. Didn't MM&FF run high 11's with a stock one? I've also seen published times in the 12.2 to 12.8 range. We all know it's capable of putting more than 1/10ths on the SS in a drag race (key word being capable). The SS weighs about the same as the GT500 and is down 114horses.
I really look forward to seeing how the SS vs GT war plays out. I think the straightline performance, braking, and handling of the SS will be the same as the standard GT with the Trackpack equipped models besting the SS in the handling/braking department. GM should look into offering a track-package option as well.
12-18-2009, 04:26 PM
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You forgot plenty more money. Isn't it going to be right in between the GT and GT500? GM won't have a problem raising their bar. But I have a feeling this HP war stuff will stop in the next few years. We've reached that diminishing returns point. It's getting ridiculous.
12-18-2009, 05:45 PM
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412hp/390tq from a 5.0L in a $30k car without direct injection is STUPID IMPRESSIVE. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.
GM set the bar high with the Camaro and I think you will see a 2011 GT with Track Pack raise that bar!
Can't wait to see how GM responds with the Camaro.
As for the comments about low compression and slapping a blower on, keep dreaming. There is no way this 5.0L is making its power with anything other than high compression. I am betting this will be a "premium fuel recommended" engine like the LS3.
I am also betting weight comes in around 3,650lbs. for the Track Pack car and it should show the Camaro SS its tailights on a drag strip and certainly on a road course.
Anyway you slice it, the 2011 GT looks to be a GREAT performance car. The best it has EVER been.
GM set the bar high with the Camaro and I think you will see a 2011 GT with Track Pack raise that bar!
Can't wait to see how GM responds with the Camaro.
As for the comments about low compression and slapping a blower on, keep dreaming. There is no way this 5.0L is making its power with anything other than high compression. I am betting this will be a "premium fuel recommended" engine like the LS3.
I am also betting weight comes in around 3,650lbs. for the Track Pack car and it should show the Camaro SS its tailights on a drag strip and certainly on a road course.
Anyway you slice it, the 2011 GT looks to be a GREAT performance car. The best it has EVER been.
12-18-2009, 06:44 PM
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12-18-2009, 07:13 PM
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Heh, I hadn't commented here, but some of my Mustang buddies really wanted an all forged rotating assembly. I pretty much figured a steel crank with power coming in so high, hi-po rods and pistons? I still reading that as powdered metal and hypereutectic pistons (which is fine).
12-18-2009, 07:20 PM
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And the GT500's have serious traction issues from the looks of it. Didn't MM&FF run high 11's with a stock one? I've also seen published times in the 12.2 to 12.8 range. We all know it's capable of putting more than 1/10ths on the SS in a drag race (key word being capable). The SS weighs about the same as the GT500 and is down 114horses.
hopefully the fix has something to do with the upper rear control arm. If Ford can find a way to stiffen it up without increasing NVH it will hep considerably, then again going to an all AL engine helps a bit too.
12-18-2009, 08:42 PM
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12-18-2009, 08:45 PM
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412hp/390tq from a 5.0L in a $30k car without direct injection is STUPID IMPRESSIVE. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.
GM set the bar high with the Camaro and I think you will see a 2011 GT with Track Pack raise that bar!
Can't wait to see how GM responds with the Camaro.
As for the comments about low compression and slapping a blower on, keep dreaming. There is no way this 5.0L is making its power with anything other than high compression. I am betting this will be a "premium fuel recommended" engine like the LS3.
I am also betting weight comes in around 3,650lbs. for the Track Pack car and it should show the Camaro SS its tailights on a drag strip and certainly on a road course.
Anyway you slice it, the 2011 GT looks to be a GREAT performance car. The best it has EVER been.
GM set the bar high with the Camaro and I think you will see a 2011 GT with Track Pack raise that bar!
Can't wait to see how GM responds with the Camaro.
As for the comments about low compression and slapping a blower on, keep dreaming. There is no way this 5.0L is making its power with anything other than high compression. I am betting this will be a "premium fuel recommended" engine like the LS3.
I am also betting weight comes in around 3,650lbs. for the Track Pack car and it should show the Camaro SS its tailights on a drag strip and certainly on a road course.
Anyway you slice it, the 2011 GT looks to be a GREAT performance car. The best it has EVER been.
12-18-2009, 09:07 PM
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12-18-2009, 09:10 PM
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