That may be although I still can't hlep but doubt "quotes" that don't indicate where they come from nor can be backed up with any TSB's.

As to the ZR1; I don't know how reliable or not it will be...I wouldn't suepect it to be unreliable but I think most people understand that the more you push the limits of an engine or drivetrain, the more likely problems are to happen...and let's not overlook the fact that the ZR1 will be at least $40K more than the GT-R.

Maybe Ghosn will challenge Porsche to a little one-on-one the next time he takes one of his Porsches in for service!

 

The car is so new you can't expect there to be TSB's yet.

 

Your right robert..but if time shows and like I said back over 6 months ago this car is more fragile than another car in its price range..thats a BIG hit to the GTR. The TSB would not be out till more customers bring in the problems. And the GTR being so limited it might take a bit of time. I mean is that transmission repair page legit? WTF??

ANd yes the ZR1 could be a steaming pile of do do..but I think GM has a good idea of building vettes even ones like the ZR1 to have matinence like this go along with the car.
And I thought GM called out Nissan with the ZR1 at the ring..if so thats 2 companies saying bring it on..

 

im sure i will use the launch control many, many, many times on my camaro when i get mine... it sure as hell better not fry anything after 10, 30, 70, or even more launches... I thought launch control was supposed to be the best way to get the fastest acceleration out of a car, in the least violent way... Nissan knew how much power they were putting to the tranny from the factory, what kept them from beefing it up? I could see if someone added 50hp... but stock power breaking stuff after just a few hard runs in a "super car" thats crazy... its not like its an aveo that wasnt meant to be ran hard...

 

Keep in mind that beyond pictures of a broken trany, we know nothing about what this owner may or may not have done to his ride that could have played a part.

There is a remarkable video of a fellow I autocross with who has an M3...the video is from a track event where his driver's side front wheel/tire almost explodes off the vehicle (spacers failed; taking part of his fender/wheel well with it)...anyone not knowing the whole story and just seeing the video could easily think that this is a BMW problem which of course it wasn't.

I've seen C5 Z06s coming off the track at at track with their rotors so hot they have actually started to melt...is that Chevy's fault or the fault of the guy abusing his ride???

Time will tell what the true story is with the GT-R; although I have a feeling that if the automotive press decides that car does what it says it does, no one here will accept it because they simply won't want to (and of course no one here believes the automotive press unless it re-states what they already believe.

 

Do you have any examples of a production car doing what Nissian claimed it would? There are some reports showing that it wont, this one from Porsche being the most difinitive thus far.

 

Honestly, I haven't picked up a general "automotive" publication in many months (I follow the automotive business but I really don't have time for general news, model reviews, etc. except now and then).

So...no...I really don't know what is being said, if anything, by the press in general.

I hope, however, that someone without an ax to grind (one way or the other) will do some significant testing of their own under controlled conditions and hopefully at a track or tracks other than the "ring (with all the hype about "ring times one would think it's the only place a vechicle can be tested!) so that there is some evidence of what all of these cars are truly cabable of.

I have heard that the GT-R teams have been doing very well in the SuperGT series this year (four out of sever wins so farI think), which doesn't seem bad for brand new vehicle.

 

An owner's manual with SEVEN BOXES to put new transmission serial numbers in? Oh yeah, this is a car I want.

And changing brake fluid and differential lube every 1800 miles? Wow, that's some service schedule there.

This has gotten downright comical.

 

at some people

 

Nissan's retort: http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...ID=57410&vf=12

 

Will this change anyone's mind...almost certainly not...anyone who wants to bash the GT-R (for whatever their reason) is not going to believe or care what Nissan has to say about the issue; a closed mind will always be closed.

That said, if somebody accused me of doing something “wrong”, I’d be hiding from the public if I actually did it and screaming my innocence from the rooftops if I hadn’t.

So, I seriously doubt Nissan would make such a public declaration to the press that they achieved their claimed lap times with a production vehicle on production/street tires as are sold on the car if it were not true – it would be far, far better to simply “shut up” as the potential devastation to Nissan in general and the GT-R in particular, were they ever proven to be lying, would be tremendous (one only need remember a semen-stained blue dress and a wagging finger about not having had sex to understand the “down-side”).

 

They've basically only claimed the tires used were the optional ones, and they neglected to say anything else about the car.

 

If that's a "severe-service" schedule intended for track use, that's probably just about right.

As far as the busted trans goes - that sucks (I doubt my wallet would enjoy that experience), but I can't say that I'm surprised. Either the TCU would have to go to annoying lengths to keep the driver from breaking something, or else the combination of mucho mass + AWD + serious power is going to lead to a problem. I suspect that we could poke around and find that at least one Z06 owner has wiped out a T56, but I don't think that would prove much of anything.

 

Which is exactly what Porsche is claiming Nissan didn't do

 

Well now there’s an intelligent retort…perhaps you should consider no “quoting” imaginary sources.