Before someone misunderstands what my point is, let me clarify myself. I know Wal-Mart is a great example of good business in a free economy, it is the attitude of too many American's these days that troubles me greatly.

 

Communism is the ultimate result of Socialism. The idealology can only be advanced so far until it morps into communism.

 

Was his asking price not 1 million? In installments or soemthing like that? He said it was a consulting fee I think.

 

I wasn't relating BM's ideas to Hitler's, just pointing out your blanket support for boat rockers and dissenting opinions without regard to the merit of their ideas. See below:


As opposed to this:


I can't see how anyone would get inflamed by that


And Buickman-I still would appreciate an answer.

 

2 things:

1) At the risk of being called a circle-jerker by everyone's favorite Threxx, I am glad someone brought that up. Just this morning I was arguing with a co-worker over her potential 3 year lease. Comparing an Altima to a G6, the 3 year payment is $26 more per month, with the same $$$ down. She prefers the Altima ONLY BECAUSE OF THAT. I said "so for exactly $6 a week, you'll support Japan over the U.S.? Impressive." She has not talked to me for several hours now. I don't think she will for the forseeable future, either. I'm ok with that. Americans love a lot of things, but the love of CHEAPER things will screw us all in the end. For the record, the only thing I buy at Wal Mart are allergy pills, and that's only because after being on Claritin, Allegra, Zyrtec and a ton of others, Wal Mart generic antihistimines are the ONLY thing that works doe me. Otherwise, to hell with Wal Mart.

2) Buickman wanted more than $1 million. Is that what he said on here finally?? I must have missed that. I will not say from whom I heard the exact amount, but while he was praising "The Plan" and saying he did not want any compensation, you'd better believe he was after some real $$$$. Let's see what he says though

 

For the record:
- I am most definitely a capitalist.
- No, Suski isn't unionized.
- I asked for nothing upfront from GM, only compensation when, and if, Return accomplished set targets. It is true though that I did request upfront cash only when told that I must resign from Suski. It was a limited amount for a short period.
- The UAW leadership is also at fault for refusing to face today's realities, and I believe they are blind to the best interest of their members.
- There is nothing wrong with current wages and benefits as they were negotiated and agreed upon under contract. Conversely, when the contract ends, it's free game.
- As we elected two Texas oilmen to the White House, are you surprised over Iraq, and the upswing in fuel prices?
- Had GM implemented Return, we would be on an upward sales curve with increasing share and profit.
- GM, it's dealers and employees would have been far better off if GMS to everyone had not occurred. It was short sighted and created long term damage.
- Wagoner has to go based upon his record, not my personal opinion. Would any professional sports team put up with consistently failing performance from the coach or manager?
- The third quarter results will be released soon, and my dire predictions of disaster from "Red Ink Rick" will stun even the blind followers.

 

The Altima was designed primarily by engineers and stylists in California, marketed in north american by a US marketing firm, built in Mississippi and Tennessee by US blue collar workers. I'm not sure the part content % but I doubt it's that much lower than the G6. So why not, when you critisized her, be a little more realistic and say "for 6 dollars more a week you could have given a little bit more of your money to the domestic economy instead of acting like the Altima is straight out of Japan and that's where her payments are heading in full.

I think the G6 is one of the GM cars built in the US and primarily part sourced in the US but there are plenty of other GM vehicles that she could have bought and walked up to you proudly to tell you she supported the domestic economy and you'd have to tell her the Altima would have probably done more good.

 

Straight from the Michael Moore School for Rational Thought...are you implying the war in Iraq had anything to do with oil? I just can't believe you would actually spew one of the oldest, flat out wrong myths about the war.

It is no wonder I have issues with your views, and your "plan".

 

A: Your first two posts speak in conflict with that statement. Perhaps some further thought would be in order on the subject.

B: Sure, except that the fact that they are no longer sustainable, and probably never should have been agreed to. UAW has to decide whether they'll take a substantial pay/bennies cut, or ride the bomb all the way down to the justice system, where their union protection will be stripped. Its a ****ty choice, but it HAS to be made. Soon.

C: Another strawman. Show me one shred of proof that Bush or Cheney has directly profited from the war, or even that the war in Iraqistan has dramatically influenced energy prices. Also, the upswing in fuel prices, due to something like a quarter of production and refining capacity being shut down for the better part of a month, should have been easy to predict for a 15 year old high-school student, let alone the owner/operator of a major GM dealership, but I suppose you have a hard time seeing through that cloud of confusion that hovers around your head all the time.

 

Yeah, no kidding. Lost all respect in my book right there with that comment.

When you first came in here Buickman you had the "Here I come to save the day!" attitude without a shred of willingness to listen to anybodies opinion but your own.

Then once you got rejected, you've returned as nothing more then a trash talking troll...

 

How much for Iraq? Is it $250,000,000,000 yet? Heard of Halliburton? Bechtel?

How much was gas before Katrina?

Anyway, getting off subject, not the place for politics.

Point is GM continues to decline under mismanagement and ineffective marketing.

 

Nissan Motor Company - HQ in Chuo-ku, Tokyo, Japan. I don't care where they build it. They are still a Japanese company, and that is where all profit dollars are controlled from.

 

They were reelected. That one is pretty easy to prove too.

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Nissan pays it's workers what it does because it doesn't want them to unionize. Even by not being union members, their wage level is indirectly supported by the UAW. Whether or not you agree with the UAW pay structure, this much is true.

 

Thankyou!. This is very true although some on here with their very anti union stance dont want to admit it. Some on here will not be happy until everyone but them makes Wal Mart wages.

Every person on here wants to find a job with good benefits, retirement, and wages. The people working for GM were fortunate enough to find one of those jobs and now others are ripping them for it.